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| Blair | Resistance is Futile! |
Registered: October 30, 2008 | Posts: 1,249 |
| Posted: | | | | While discussing the novel Uglies by Scott Westerfeld today, an interesting psychological and reasoning question was brought up that I would like to share. Given the psychological nature of the question, read carefully.
Some time in the future, scientists have discovered a way to permanently erase short-term memories that is of no danger to the subjects (eg: no possibility of brain damage.) It is used only as therapy for those going into a very specific set of surgeries that are excruciating and traumatic as the patient must be mostly awake for the entire five-hour operation. The patient goes in for the surgery and five hours later, the previous 24 hours of that patient's life are erased entirely. No clear memories, no repressed memories, and no emotions peaking through that the patient can't figure out from where they came related to those 24 hours. Nothing.
For the sake of this question, you are being allowed total freedom only during the 24 hours that will be erased. There will be no consequences other than those you might cause yourself such as injury from a stupid choice. No one that sees you or may be with you (including a spouse) will hold you back. As if their memories would be erased as well during the 24-hour period, no one will tell you what the 24 hours in question were like nor will they change their opinions of you. Nothing during the 24 hours will be videotaped and posted on YouTube, etc. It is also guaranteed that the surgery will be 100% successful, so no fears of possible complications or death.
For you, it's 8:00pm Friday night, and work ended a few hours ago. The kids are with a babysitter. A total night of freedom to do anything you can imagine is yours for the taking if you wish.
As of this moment, it is 24 hours until you have to have the surgery.
So here's the question.
Knowing that you won't remember a thing anyway, would you live the next 24 hours as if it is any other day (sit at home, go to work, play on the Internet, maybe go out for dinner and drinks with friends... the usual,) or would you go wild, branch out, or likewise do things you never considered doing before knowing under normal circumstances you would have regretted them if not for knowing that you will never recall anything from the experience? If the latter, would you go out right now or wait a while, plan, schedule or maybe just relax before your night on the town?
(Complicated read, I know. The original discussion was verbal and easier to express.) | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | Sounds like a mix of 50 First Dates and The Hangover... |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Biased poll. | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,851 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Blair: Quote: would you go wild, branch out, or likewise do things you never considered doing before knowing under normal circumstances you would have regretted them Why would anyone want to do something they knew would cause regret under normal circumstances? --------------- |
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| Blair | Resistance is Futile! |
Registered: October 30, 2008 | Posts: 1,249 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote: Biased poll. How so? The first is about doing something. The second is (essentially) about doing nothing. The third is about doing both. Anyway the options were decided based on the conversation and the wording as carefully chosen as I could. Quoting scotthm: Quote: Why would anyone want to do something they knew would cause regret under normal circumstances? Because it is human nature to ponder the unknown... even if the unknown is sometimes foolish or wrong. These thoughts often include the words, "I wish I could..." Sometimes people say, "To heck with it" and do these things anyway. | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. | | | Last edited: by Blair |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Blair: Quote:
Knowing that you won't remember a thing anyway Sounds like a typical friday night in the bar... What was the question agan? Ok, maybe I'd stay home and watch a really bad movie instead. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,118 |
| Posted: | | | | I think, even if your mind was erased of something you did - there would be a record of it somewhere deep inside - which would somehow manifest itself in a subconscious way - and come to surface at a later time. There's no escaping your actions. |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,730 |
| Posted: | | | | What would be the point of doing something extra-ordinary if it wouldn't be memorable?
I guess I'd stay at home and watch a movie movie I've already watched 100 times. "The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" would probably be a good idea.
EDIT: Thought about it a bit longer and seriously doubt that I would (no matter how traumatic the experience) would like to have my brain white-washed. I love my life and this means every single day of it. Even the bad parts, they too mad me the human I am today. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up! But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
Registrant since 05/22/2003 | | | Last edited: by Lewis_Prothero |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Blair: Quote:
Quote: Biased poll. How so? There's no "Other - please explain" option. | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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Registered: May 8, 2007 | Posts: 823 |
| Posted: | | | | Political threads aren't allowed here. | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | I wouldn't do anything different - if I can't remember it why do it?
Of course I wouldn't let anyone touch my brain or memories in the first place. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote: Political threads aren't allowed here. Non sequiturs, on the other hand, are. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,819 |
| Posted: | | | | Having read the book in question I can say that I would definitely go with live the day like it was your last.
But, as always, we should do this anyway.
Good books though! |
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