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Is it time to start buying Blu Ray (without a HD TV)
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantandrewmk
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This might sound like the dumbest question of the day, but indulge me !! 

Seeing as there is now a winner (well almost) in the HD wars, is there any reason not to start buying Bluray straight away? 

You see I don't, as yet, own a HD TV.  I plan to when I get around to building a full-on home cinema.  But, for now,  I'm stuck with a standard def set.  But if I buy a BR player now I assume I can plug it into my old TV.  DVD's are cheaper of course, but aside from that, I can't see any reason to buy into the 'old' format any more.    Or am I jumpting the gun already ?

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I would say you're jumping the gun.
Wait until you've got a HDTV and you'll be able to see the benefit of the improved picture.
Also, by the time you upgrade, the hardware and software should have come down in price.
Or you could also wait until the format after blu-ray comes out... 
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If you have a player, and don't mind paying the little extra on the price tag. I don't see why you shouldn't buy "future-proof" already...
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If you have a player, and don't mind paying the little extra on the price tag. I don't see why you shouldn't buy "future-proof" already...

There's no such thing as "future-proof".  Ask any member who's seen the last 4 or 5 media changes.  This happens on the order of once every 10-15 years, Blu-ray will be no different.

I would humbly suggest that you not bother purchasing for as long as you can hold out as the prices will do nothing but drop.  Why pay $35 for a movie today that you can't watch, when it will likely be double-dipped tomorrow for less, at a time when you can watch it?'

Anybody thinking that the next Blu-ray version of movie "X" will be the last time they ever buy it either hasn't been around very long or is very near retirement. 
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Unless you were planning on going Blu-ray anyway, I'd wait until it's more than "almost" over before jumping the gun on this one. I'll guess you were waiting for a clear winner to emerge. That hasn't entirely happened yet and there could be more changes in the future. Ya never know.
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And of course you'd need to get a 2.0 player to be "future proof"...
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Complementing my first post, if you don't have a player yet, then I'd stay put and wait. The 2.0 profile players are just now being announced at CES so I wouldn't rush to buy one just now.
Unless you want a games console too, then you van always buy a PS and upgrade the firmware in the future.
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Thanks for the replies.

I posed the question on the theory that if I want to buy a film, why not buy it in the 'better' format.  If it is that clear that we have a winner in Blu Ray, when is the right time to adopt the new format.  Now or wait ?

However, and here's a another question completely, is there a GOOD Bluray player out there??  The reviews seem to tell of flakey players with numerous firmware issues.  Looks like I will wait for some 2nd generation players to come out after all.   

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Something else to keep in mind is what are your viewing habits?  Do your disks always get played in a single player or do they migrate between players/computers/vehicles/etc?  Unless of course you were contemplating multiple HD player purchases.
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LG and Samsung came out with a player that plays both Blu Ray and HD but it has a big price tag of $900.00us.
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something else to think about. 
If Blu-Ray doesn't have to stay in a price war with HD-DVD.  The prices might start going up........
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I would say you're jumping the gun.
Wait until you've got a HDTV and you'll be able to see the benefit of the improved picture.
Also, by the time you upgrade, the hardware and software should have come down in price.
Or you could also wait until the format after blu-ray comes out... 


Pretty sure I'm going to wait for the next format, as long as they keep making SD counterparts to get me through. If SD dies completly I'll be forced and unhappy, but will cave.

Ron also has a point about the competetion and possible price increase too.
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something else to think about. 
If Blu-Ray doesn't have to stay in a price war with HD-DVD.  The prices might start going up........


Prices won't go up..they will start to come down...one format for all means higher sales volume of the surviving format.  Higher sales volume=less cost/unit=lower price.  It's the 'Wal-Mart Syndrome'.  It's how the market works, except for gasoline 
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something else to think about. 
If Blu-Ray doesn't have to stay in a price war with HD-DVD.  The prices might start going up........


Prices won't go up..they will start to come down...one format for all means higher sales volume of the surviving format.  Higher sales volume=less cost/unit=lower price.  It's the 'Wal-Mart Syndrome'.  It's how the market works, except for gasoline 

Hmmm...tell that to the video game console makers who have a monopoly on their hardware.  Prices only go down when they've sucked the public dry at a particular price point.  Volume seems to have crap to do with it.  I forget, who makes game consoles again?
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Yeah, there is one more variable called 'what the market will bear'.  Hence gas keeps going up because the market hasn't reached the point to make sales go down.  If folks in general are glad to spend $35+ for BR, then the price will rise until the market says 'no more'.
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