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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | OK, following on from this post in the Contributions forum, do you want the possessory credits stored in a separate field? I'm working on the basis that it would work like the edition field, only going at the front instead of at the end, and that it can be switched on and off according to preference just like the edition field. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | IMO we don't need the field. In some cases the possesive is part of the title, in some cases it may give a crew result (most often original material), and in some cases it should be ignored. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Rho:
What my position is on this is irrelevant. Your suggestion is exactly why we have the problem we have right now and why some users are confused. There is NO sometimes this or Sometimes that, depending on something that is totally arbitrary and virtually impossible to codify. It either is or its is NOT. Period. Your way will only reduce such Contributions because users won't be able to easily determine the answer.
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote: IMO we don't need the field. In some cases the possesive is part of the title, in some cases it may give a crew result (most often original material), and in some cases it should be ignored. I don't get you - if we had this field it wouldn't matter if the possessory credit was part of the title, or a credit - if it was in it's own separate field it would stop all the arguing about whether it was part of the title or not. It would have it's own place in the database and the title field could be used consistently without it. Even the two exceptions I mentioned on the other thread (Sin City and Lemony Snicket) could be treated this way. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 291 |
| Posted: | | | | i'm all for it. and for another reason...putting the possessive in an different field leaves move room in the title field for really long titles... when they happen of course, not a long title just for a long title's sake...... krik | | | "Vampirism is still not a disease, Julia. Vampires are the living dead...dead...dead..." |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | North: I understand what Rho is saying. He is among those users that are not really interested in a solution as much as they want it the way they want it, and the data which they believe is relevant. Hence the vote. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,678 |
| Posted: | | | | While I would love to get the possessives out of the title, I fear that we may end up with the same type of discussions, albeit not as often, about parts of the title that may or may not be treated as a possessive.
If you accept "Lemony Snicket's / A Series of Unfortunate Events" then what's to say that it's not "The Hitchhiker's / Guide to the Galaxy"? | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users. Gunnar |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 775 |
| Posted: | | | | The fact that no-one named, or using the pen name "The Hitchhiker" is responsible for the creation of that body of work. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,678 |
| Posted: | | | | True, but in order to see that distinction you would have to know that Lemony Snicket is not only a character in the film, but also a pseudonym used by the author.
I would prefer a system that did not require that kind of knowledge in order to correctly parse the title. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users. Gunnar |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote: While I would love to get the possessives out of the title, I fear that we may end up with the same type of discussions, albeit not as often, about parts of the title that may or may not be treated as a possessive.
If you accept "Lemony Snicket's / A Series of Unfortunate Events" then what's to say that it's not "The Hitchhiker's / Guide to the Galaxy"? But "The Hitchhiker's" is only a possessive, it's not a possessive credit. Therefore it belongs in the title field. "Lemony Snicket's" is an imaginary possessive credit, however I'd have no problems with it being left in the title field too. I was just trying to keep things simple. |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | No we're not! |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,321 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: I don't get you - if we had this field it wouldn't matter if the possessory credit was part of the title, or a credit - if it was in it's own separate field it would stop all the arguing about whether it was part of the title or not. It would have it's own place in the database and the title field could be used consistently without it. Even the two exceptions I mentioned on the other thread (Sin City and Lemony Snicket) could be treated this way. I disagree. I'm one of those who would like to see it when it's actually part of the title and not see it when it's nothing more than a possessory credit. You might find that some will try to stuff it in the title when they think it's part of the title so it shows properly. I wouldn't do that, but I'm not everyone. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here. Create fake parent profiles to organize your collection. |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Although, if you wanted it that way - all you'd have to do is have the possessory credit displayed and delete those entries you don't want, or switch it off but copy over the ones you want to see into the title field. The important thing is that the information is there for those that want it, but in a separate field for those who don't. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,321 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: Although, if you wanted it that way - all you'd have to do is have the possessory credit displayed and delete those entries you don't want, or switch it off but copy over the ones you want to see into the title field. The important thing is that the information is there for those that want it, but in a separate field for those who don't. That's all very true. And it would be the way to go for those want to see "The Bird's" and "Frank Miller's Sin City". And if everyone uses it that way, then I like this idea and support it. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here. Create fake parent profiles to organize your collection. |
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