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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 844 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote: highly unlikely I think it is highly unlikely that either format will 'lose' in the end... not to each other anyway... | | | Last edited: by bob9000 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,127 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bob9000: Quote: Speaking od dead sony formats, when was the last time that Sony Music or Sony Classical released a commercial MD. The last one I bought must have been back in 1997...ans MDs were still around LONNNG after that (I still own two portables and a stand-alone....I loved me my MD players ) More a curiosity question than wholly relevent.... As far as I know, that was mainly for recording music. Definitely not many titles were even released to begin with. Now, Japan is a different story. | | | To err is human... ----------- 473 Blu-ray Titles |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,127 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bob9000: Quote: Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
Quote: highly unlikely I think it is highly unlikely that either format will 'lose' in the end... not to each other anyway... That is a possibility. I just don't believe it is likely that neither will lose. Consumers are already telling the market that the majority won't have any HD player until this format war is finished or damn near finished. | | | To err is human... ----------- 473 Blu-ray Titles |
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Registered: March 16, 2007 | Posts: 405 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote: Quoting Calidain:
Quote: Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
Quote: Quoting Boykin:
Quote: This is VERY interesting.
Is the Bluray BD 1.1 Standard still-born Yet Again?? What is that site? It's clear that it is just meant to carry the FUD from one person to the next (like a virus). Is this a part of MS virus marketing plan...like the A-man going from AVS to highdefdigest.com?
Q1:2008 according to announcements from IFA
No one knows if the PS3 will receive an update for profile 1.1 this year or not. Well, at least, Fox has titles coming out this year with profile 1.1 and 2.0 content. To bad Warner doesn't seem to be following that example.
So this site is not legit because it is a possible HD-DVD site, yet you most often link your arguments to Blu-Ray.com and we are supposed to take that site as being an unbiased source of information??? Come on dude, you can't have it both ways!!! It is NOT legit, because the information is mostly either ISN"T TRUE or hearsay ....period. Here...This is a link from within the above link you are calling NOT legit!!! Again, there is no proof to say it ISN"T TRUE or hearsay...you blabbering that it is doesn't make it so. Even though you preach on here as if you are speaking the gospel of the net, you are clearly fooling no one!!! | | | My Collection!!! | | | Last edited: by Calidain |
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Registered: March 16, 2007 | Posts: 405 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote: Quoting bob9000:
Quote: Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
Quote: highly unlikely I think it is highly unlikely that either format will 'lose' in the end... not to each other anyway... That is a possibility. I just don't believe it is likely that neither will lose. Consumers are already telling the market that the majority won't have any HD player until this format war is finished or damn near finished. Are you serious??? If the Majority of the Consumers are dictating to the Hi-Def market that they aren't going to buy any HD player until this format war is finished or damn near finished, then how the hell will the war ever end. This Majority you speak of has got to be the one to decide this format war, nothing else will. The war will be determined by the Majority's wallets, not by studio dollars of studio decisions to support one or the other formats!!! If the Majority continue to sit back and ignore this entire format war (and at this point I honestly believe that the average consumer within this majority is doing just that) then in the end it is possible that there might not be a winner at all. Look at DVD-A or SACD...in the end no one gave a damn, their normal CDs were just fine not to mention the power of downloadable music!!! Hmmm, maybe downloadable movies is the future after all!!! | | | My Collection!!! | | | Last edited: by Calidain |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,127 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Calidain: Quote: Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
Quote: Quoting Calidain:
Quote: Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
Quote: Quoting Boykin:
Quote: This is VERY interesting.
Is the Bluray BD 1.1 Standard still-born Yet Again?? What is that site? It's clear that it is just meant to carry the FUD from one person to the next (like a virus). Is this a part of MS virus marketing plan...like the A-man going from AVS to highdefdigest.com?
Q1:2008 according to announcements from IFA
No one knows if the PS3 will receive an update for profile 1.1 this year or not. Well, at least, Fox has titles coming out this year with profile 1.1 and 2.0 content. To bad Warner doesn't seem to be following that example.
So this site is not legit because it is a possible HD-DVD site, yet you most often link your arguments to Blu-Ray.com and we are supposed to take that site as being an unbiased source of information??? Come on dude, you can't have it both ways!!! It is NOT legit, because the information is mostly either ISN"T TRUE or hearsay ....period.
Here...
This is a link from within the above link you are calling NOT legit!!! Again, there is no proof to say it ISN"T TRUE or hearsay...you blabbering that it is doesn't make it so. Even though you preach on here as if you are speaking the gospel of the net, you are clearly fooling no one!!! And I didn't see one thing in that article that said profile 1.1 or better BD players won't arrive until Q2: 2008. Did you see that in the Ultimate AV magazine? That's what I'm talking about. | | | To err is human... ----------- 473 Blu-ray Titles |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,127 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Calidain: Quote: Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
Quote: Quoting bob9000:
Quote: Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
Quote: highly unlikely I think it is highly unlikely that either format will 'lose' in the end... not to each other anyway... That is a possibility. I just don't believe it is likely that neither will lose. Consumers are already telling the market that the majority won't have any HD player until this format war is finished or damn near finished.
Are you serious??? If the Majority of the Consumers are dictating to the Hi-Def market that they aren't going to buy any HD player until this format war is finished or damn near finished, then how the hell will the war ever end. This Majority you speak of has got to be the one to decide this format war, nothing else will. The war will be determined by the Majority's wallets, not by studio dollars of studio decisions to support one or the other formats!!! If the Majority continue to sit back and ignore this entire format war (and at this point I honestly believe that the average consumer within this majority is doing just that) then in the end it is possible that there might not be a winner at all.
Look at DVD-A or SACD...in the end no one gave a damn, their normal CDs were just fine not to mention the power of downloadable music!!! Hmmm, maybe downloadable movies is the future after all!!! Like I've said a time or two before to you...I've already explained this in GREAT detail quite a while ago. If you didn't get it then, you probably won't get it now. | | | To err is human... ----------- 473 Blu-ray Titles |
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Registered: March 16, 2007 | Posts: 405 |
| Posted: | | | | Oh you explained this already, well thank the lord we have you here to show us the way.
Every day you prove to be the biggest windbag spin doctor I have ever had the displeasure of meeting on the net!!! You explain off your opinions and beliefs with heresay and rhetoric and then later you just say, I already explained this to everyone, blah blah blah. You link to biased Blu-Ray hyperbole and expect everyone here to bow to your debating prowess but then quickly attempt to discredit anything anyone posts that counters your rhetoric...that is the definition of a Spin -Doctor...I have already explained this to you as well I believe, several times, if you didn't understand then, clearly you never @#$#@$% will!!! | | | My Collection!!! |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,127 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Calidain: Quote: Oh you explained this already, well thank the lord we have you here to show us the way.
Every day you prove to be the biggest windbag spin doctor I have ever had the displeasure of meeting on the net!!! You explain off your opinions and beliefs with heresay and rhetoric and then later you just say, I already explained this to everyone, blah blah blah. You link to biased Blu-Ray hyperbole and expect everyone here to bow to your debating prowess but then quickly attempt to discredit anything anyone posts that counters your rhetoric...that is the definition of a Spin -Doctor...I have already explained this to you as well I believe, several times, if you didn't understand then, clearly you never @#$#@$% will!!! Please. Save your confessions and testimonials for church. I provide mutliple (if available) links to current information to back up my main points when requested. The best I've seen from you are basically emotional comments. Things I've already explained to a person, I try not to repeat to often. It's just a waste of my time and that person's time (in this case...you). | | | To err is human... ----------- 473 Blu-ray Titles |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote: Quoting Unicus69:
Quote: Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
Quote: My original post (not my quote above) about this I said Sony would probably (something to that affect) continue to support Blu-ray. There is a history of Sony support such things (recent example...UMD).
Example before that?
Quote: I'm just saying...this (in the unlikely scenario of Blu-ray losing) wouldn't be the first time supported an almost dead movie idea (not format). The UMD format is what the PSP games are put on.
I know what UMDs are, I own 2 PSPs, but support for that format does not prove they will continue to support Blu-ray...which is what you just said. Sony did own a movie studio until 1989. Therefore, what other examples of providing audio or video content would there be? CDs are still going strong. Sony still gets partial royalties from the compromise for what is now known as DVD. Blu-ray is still in the lead. What's left?[/blcokquote] I'm sorry. I figured, since you said, "There is a history," you actually meant there was a history. One example, which wasn't a good example to begin with, is hardly 'history'. Quote: I proved that it is likely the Sony would continue movie support for Blu-ray in the highly unlikely event that it would lose. No, you speculated that is is likely. Proof requires facts and all you provided was your opinion. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 16, 2007 | Posts: 405 |
| Posted: | | | | The only one preaching and giving testimonials is you!!! You argue Blu-Rays dominance like arguing the existance of GOD himself, as many here have pointed out, you are a Blu-Ray ZEALOT!!! You are no different than a Jehovah's Witness banging on my door trying to preach to me about their zealot beliefs. | | | My Collection!!! |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,127 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
Quote: Quoting Unicus69:
Quote: Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
Quote: My original post (not my quote above) about this I said Sony would probably (something to that affect) continue to support Blu-ray. There is a history of Sony support such things (recent example...UMD).
Example before that?
Quote: I'm just saying...this (in the unlikely scenario of Blu-ray losing) wouldn't be the first time supported an almost dead movie idea (not format). The UMD format is what the PSP games are put on.
I know what UMDs are, I own 2 PSPs, but support for that format does not prove they will continue to support Blu-ray...which is what you just said. Sony did own a movie studio until 1989. Therefore, what other examples of providing audio or video content would there be? CDs are still going strong. Sony still gets partial royalties from the compromise for what is now known as DVD. Blu-ray is still in the lead. What's left?[/blcokquote]
I'm sorry. I figured, since you said, "There is a history," you actually meant there was a history. One example, which wasn't a good example to begin with, is hardly 'history'.
Quote: I proved that it is likely the Sony would continue movie support for Blu-ray in the highly unlikely event that it would lose.
No, you speculated that is is likely. Proof requires facts and all you provided was your opinion. That first part of your response is not worth addressing in detail. Your second response isn't worth a more detailed response either, but I'll do it. I have PROVED the POSSIBILITY of Sony's possible prolonged support of Blu-ray in the event that it lost the format war. The fact was that Sony is STILL supporting UMD movies. Remember, this WHOLE situation is a "what if" scenario. | | | To err is human... ----------- 473 Blu-ray Titles |
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Registered: March 16, 2007 | Posts: 405 |
| Posted: | | | | No actually you made an ASSUMPTION that Sony would continue to support Blu-Ray if they lose the war based on some weak argument that Sony continues to support the UMD for a proprietary Sony gaming unit!!! You didn't PROVE anything, you assumed something and expect everyone else to buy into your assumption!!! | | | My Collection!!! |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 460 |
| Posted: | | | | So what is being said is that in the highly unlikely case that SONY would loose the format-war they'd try and do anything remotely possible in their financial power to make the whole High Def format a successfull failure. Actually the same that Toshiba (I think about a year and a half to two years ago now) did when Blu-ray and HD DVD were talking about one standardised format?
I actually am starting to hope that Disney will change its policy and start releasing on either both formats, or on HD DVD exclusive so I can buy myself a HD player. | | | Jean-Paul |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,127 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Calidain: Quote: The only one preaching and giving testimonials is you!!! You argue Blu-Rays dominance like arguing the existance of GOD himself, as many here have pointed out, you are a Blu-Ray ZEALOT!!! You are no different than a Jehovah's Witness banging on my door trying to preach to me about their zealot beliefs. Dude, whatever you want to BELIEVE. I am for Blu-ray because the scientific facts (the specs) state Blu-ray is better for the FUTURE (not the right now) of movie delivery. I have given the breakdown of the PQ and SQ reviews across 5 diiferent sites with the average score of each site (and the overall scoring) for Blu-ray and HD DVD. I have given SO MUCH data on this format war. What have you brought besides hearsay and emotional outbreaks? Your argument is not based on much of anything but emotion. Usually, highly emotional responses (like your response) come from someone's BELIEF being challenged. Funny, it seems you fit your own accusations a hell of a lot better than I do. | | | To err is human... ----------- 473 Blu-ray Titles |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 585 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote: EDIT: I must have read your post before you changed it then hit the quote button. By that time you must have already changed the original post. Sorry, try again. There was a 15-20 minute period between my post and your quote. It's not possible for you to click the "quote" button and then changes I made later show up in your quote. They were already made when you quoted. It would have been much easier to just admit you made a mistake, but apparently you're beyond admitting minor things like that. Anyway, doesn't matter. You're whole argument during that point was completely laid to rest. I didn't have a chance to hit Best Buy this weekend, but I did stop by Target. Their UMD selection is no where to be found in their entire DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray section of movies. On a whim I went to the game department and checked the tiny little PSP section and sure enough there were your highly touted UMD movie selections. 3 whole movies. Casino Royale, Spider Man 2, and Ghost Rider. That was the the entire selection. I hope to hit Best Buy this coming week and I can't wait to see the huge selection of UMD movies they have for sale; thus proving Sony will support Blu-ray for the next 10 year no matter what. | | | "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" - Douglas Bader "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams |
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