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$199 BD Drive.  What is the cost of an HD DVD drive these days?

$179.99 And it comes with 8 free HD DVDs from Amazon right now. What does the BenQ come with?

WOW!  Does it burn CDs and DVDs for that MASSIVE $20 savings? 

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The BenQ doesn't either you fool, you cant even read your own links!

I just asked you a question.  I never said the BenQ could write CDs and DVDs...did I? 

EDIT: I didn't answer your question from your other post.  The BenQ will probably come with the same offer for all Blu-ray players (since that's all you can use it for).  The point being that price is starting not to become a factor for the more advanced specs.

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The point being that price is starting not to become a factor for the more advanced specs.

Again, BD is not more advanced, and comparing pc drive options doesn't really count as its a tiny fraction of consumers that will build pcs powerful enough to act as HD format players, the price of stand alone players is what should be compared.

Again A_S, you spin everything into a neat little Blu-Ray covered package, complete with a pretty little pink ribbon, completely avoiding what anyone actually posts on these boards, unless it is a Blu-Ray fluff piece of course.

What myself and others are arguing here with the Pac-Man pie chart, as discussed in this article...

A War Of HYPE!!!

is that the BDA and its company shills and fanboys, like yourself, are overhyping this ridiculous 2 to 1 margin as a clear sign from GOD himself that Blu-Ray is the format wars' eventual winner.  It is tantamount to a major news agency reporting that such and such candidate is the clear favorite to win an election when less than 1% of the ballots have been cast let alone counted!!!

Do I believe that one or the other will eventually overcome DVD's current insurmountable lead...YES...you moron, I am not arguing that.  However is there any current proof that Blu-Ray will be the one to overcome DVD just because it holds a current 2 to 1 lead with less than 1% of the current consumers buying into Hi-Def at all???  The resounding answer, oh thick headed one, is a big resounding NO!!!

Come back when you actually have something intelligent to add!!!

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Ridley Scott joins Steven Spielberg, and Francis Ford Coppola in making sure their movies make it to Blu-ray

"A.I.", "War Of The Worlds", "Saving Private Ryan", "Indiana Jones" series, "Apocalypse Now" OR the "Godfather" series will be HD DVD exclusive it seems (if the Paramount chooses to release them in HD). 

It would seem that goes for Jaws, Jurassic Park, etc. for Universal. 

Clarify please. I may be misreading this, but it sounds like Spielberg and Coppola will be releasing their movies on HD-DVD, since most of their titles belong to HD-DVD exclusive studios. .... correct?

If the above is true, than how does this ensure blu-ray release?

Of course Spielberg and Coppola films that were released with other studios maybe exclusive to blu-ray, but this doesn't change anything that wasn't already known. The same would hold true for Scott.

Apparently, those three will not allow any of their movies to be released unless they are also released on Blu-ray disc. Since all three are well-known and probably three of the best director's out there, they pretty much get there way as no studio wants to piss them off, or so I have read elsewhere.

So then if the HD-DVD exclusives (USA only) will not release in Blu-ray then no chance of their movies being released in any HD format.
Stalemate.

Interesting. Spielberg has always had relationship(been in bed) with Universal and Paramount. If Spielberg prefers Blu-ray over HD-DVD i bet Lucas will be on the same side.

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A_S, people don't care about picture and audio quality. If this were true the only tv that would be sold would minimum of 1080p, yet go into any tv reseller and you will find multiple sets that aren't even HD and many that are 720p. Even more supportive statements is full screen vs widescreen. Why on earth would they have allowed both formats to be sold? Simple: consumers are not intelligent.

I believe people DO care about PQ and SQ.  They just don't know enough to keep people from BSing them.  How many times have you heard someone say...Which one is the best TV? or...I like the picture on that one better than the other one.  OR...How does it sound?  OR...I have $1000.  I want the best sound I can get for that money.  What can you do?

Those things only suggest that people DO care about PQ and SQ.  When I worked Part-time at HiFi Buys, Those were some of the most common questions and statements.  I can say that people sometimes compromise depending on how much it costs, but they seem to walk away a little less happy when they do.

Widescreen vs. Fullscreen.  Most just don't know they are missing about 1/3 of their movie.  Others just want the picture to fill their screen at all costs.

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Marketing. Who here buys something because we saw a commercial that said there product was the best? Probably none of us. But we are in the less than 1% category. Look at auto industry. I will use Ford, since I am not a big fan of Ford. You have Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury.  Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan. Both the exact same car. Why?????
Consumers are not smart and don’t really care about the detail that we look at. So this whole HD-DVD vs Blu-ray is futile. You are competing with yourself.  The only people who have even considered buying into the technology are your fellow knowledgeable consumers. The problem you have to worry about is when the price enters into the market of the ill informed consumers.

I agree that the problem is the uninformed consumer.  They don't understand that the specs helps to make the end results.  They would just ask why there product can't do this or that.  They wouldn't know it's because of the specs of their product.  They can't seem to plan ahead properly.  It's like trying to squeeze a 100 people that are 18" wide through a 16" pipe that covers the 1 acre of land your own (accurate HD DVD analogy).  The pipe equals the bandwidth, the 1 acre equals the disc space, and the people equals the data.

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The best thing for both formats is to have neutrality amongst all movies. Then you could have a choice of what format you liked better, but this will not happen because Sony is a content provider and content delivery provider.

That would be true if all thing were equal.  When I mention bandwidth here, I get the equivalent of a blank stare at times.  That is the most important thing for a movie.  HD DVD people just usually say...they can just put it on 2 discs.  Those people were in affect talking about space as if it were bandwidth.  Blades of Glory had a 5.1 LPCM track for the Blu-ray version (not released).  The HD DVD version had DD+.  It had enough space for a lossless track, but not the bandwidth.

Here's where I get a little emotional (rant alert)...To vote HD DVD in is very selfish to me.  It cuts a lot of people off from having the best PQ and SQ available for consumers.  Blu-ray may be more money for an ENTRY player, but prices always come down on CE products.  Everyone that wants PQ and SQ and price will get served in the end.  It doesn't work that way if HD DVD were voted in.  HD DVD isn't going to just have more bandwidth.  If the bandwidth for both were the same, I would say...let's do it.  Sometimes you just have to stand up for the overall good of home entertainment. 

I hate that it was me that had to stand up, but no one would say anything for Blu-ray starting last year on the other DVD Profiler site.  Some people were too busy throughing away facts (or they didn't know them) from the Blu-ray side to make it/them seem neutral.  Then there were the HD DVD people with very few facts and sometimes just completely making untrue things up about the other format.  There was no Blu-ray side present.  Anyway, enough back story.  I said I would stick with this and I will.  I'm just glad it looks like this format will go to Blu-ray over time.  Tons of your favorite CE companies producing Blu-ray products and features.  Fox, MGM, Sony, Lionsgates, and the new editions to the Blu-ray studio family have scheduled a nice amount releases (and still scheduling) for the rest of this year.  And, the BD player sales and software lead looks like it will continue to grow.  I just hope the consumers will stop waiting on the sidelines and by a BD player (Profile 1.1 or 2.0) from their favorite CE companies and buy some movies from the 50+% exclusive studio support available.  That way we can get to watching and listening to HD at the best quality available now and in the future.

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DVD vs. DiVx.  The market was VHS's by around the same margin as DVD now.  Did DVD and DiVx have to get really huge before one was killed?  Or, did DVD beat DiVx and THEN got strong enough, over time, to take VHS down? 

I already covered this.  By the time DivX was launched, VHS was already on the way out.  According to your latest article, there were already 3,000 DVD-Video titles in the U.S. and 1.4 million players in U.S. homes.  VHS was already on it's way out by the time DivX launched on October 1, 1998.

DVD did what neither HD format has done.  They convinced John Q. Public that they needed to convert to DVD.