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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 103 |
| | Posted: | | | | Lucas and Spielberg have not chosen a format to release on. It will be interesting to see how that will affect the formats. I mean Star Wars was just released 3 years ago. Who knows how long he will wait before he release it on HiDef. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting graymadder: Quote:
Lucas and Spielberg have not chosen a format to release on. It will be interesting to see how that will affect the formats. I mean Star Wars was just released 3 years ago. Who knows how long he will wait before he release it on HiDef. That's why Spielberg has let Sony release Close Encounters of the Third Kind on blu-ray, right? That is why he also supervised the work done on the project, right? That is why Paramount was not allowed to have his movies in their exclusive HD DVD deal, right? That is why Universal had to apolgize to him and remove all mentions of his movies from HD DVD propaganda, right? Okay, if you say so. (NoteL This post had nothing to do with Lucas) | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pplchamp: Quote:
Cliff...
No one cares about DVD compared to Hidef. It's apples and oranges.. I think you have that backwards...nobody cares how many HD discs have been sold as it isn't even a drop in the home entertainment bucket. Neither side has convinced Joe Public that they need HD. Until they do, it is a niche market at best. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 103 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pplchamp: Quote:
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Lucas and Spielberg have not chosen a format to release on. It will be interesting to see how that will affect the formats. I mean Star Wars was just released 3 years ago. Who knows how long he will wait before he release it on HiDef.
That's why Spielberg has let Sony release Close Encounters of the Third Kind on blu-ray, right? That is why he also supervised the work done on the project, right? That is why Paramount was not allowed to have his movies in their exclusive HD DVD deal, right? That is why Universal had to apolgize to him and remove all mentions of his movies from HD DVD propaganda, right?
Okay, if you say so.
(NoteL This post had nothing to do with Lucas) Lighten up, Francis. Isn't CEtK a Columbia (Sony) Picture as well as Hook? Yes. WB has a couple two. Which IS the reason for my post. He has the majority of his films with Universal and Paramount. Regardless of what was printed from Universal/Paramount etc, none (well almost none) of his flims has been anounced of when and if they will be released in HD. He held out for awhile before he began releasing his films onto DVD as well. So why would HD be any different? Hence the reason for the post. Just because he had his films removed from the deal doen't mean sh*t. All it says is that he retains the right of when they will be released. Regardless of which format they are on. Please don't read into and manipulate the words spoken by others. You are way out of line and the reason for you attack on my post is unfounded and frankly retarded. Just because you picked a side doesn't make you an authority of all things HD. Did you really use the word propaganda in your post to belittle HD-DVD? Well depending on the use of the word this can be a compliment, so before I continue to assume that you are implying the negative connotation of the word propaganda I will look a the positive. This thread is becoming almost a pure waste. People are so biased and full of themselves that they think they are the end all be all. Rather than posting something that would stimulate a positive and intellectual discussion, thread, they would rather spout off words that causes arguments and making it personal. "The most effective propaganda is often completely truthful."* *Wikipedia.org |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 254 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote:
4th Quarter Line-Up for HD DVD so far (Transformers, Shrek 3, and Bourne Ultimatum have not been dated, yet). Also, Warner Bros. titles were removed because they are neutral releases and most likely will sell better on Blu-ray anyway. Man you have reached pure desperation now, you remove Warner titles from the HD DVD lineup but add them to the BD lineup because they "most likely will sell better on Blu Ray"? Are you trying to sell readers on a better BD lineup? Do you think everyone in this forum is retarded? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,946 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sony Blu-Ray launched a promotion in the Benelux (12 August - 30 September). Buy 2 Blu-Ray discs, get a 3rd for free.
I don't know if it will get them going. Player prices for the cheapest HD-DVD player are about 350€, cheapest Blu-Ray players are about 650€.
For myself, I think I will hold off until there is a clear winner. I just hope this thing doesn't drag on for years to come. | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting graymadder: Quote:
Lucas and Spielberg have not chosen a format to release on. . Don't whine and moan, you're the one that made this statement. Apparently, with Close Encounters coming out on Blu-ray and no Universal titles in the near future, he decided a format. Apparently, with Paramounts HD DVD stance, the not including any Speilberg movies that he directs in that deal, HE has chose a format, and it's not HD DVD. Apparently, Steven got pissed when he saw his Universal titles on promotional fliers for HD DVD... then they were removed... hmmm wonder why.... You're right, I did choose a side, that doesn't mean that in the future I won't pick up a cheap HD DVD player. But, as for now, what Steven has done... it speaks out loud. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | So far, HD discs' sales impact has been meaningless in the big picture. Blu-ray fanatics have been claiming for longer than a year now that HD DVD is a dead format, using many reasoned and not-so-reasoned arguments to fill out the HD DVD death note. Not with Paramount's choice of HD DVD exclusivity, the HD DVD fans have their own reasoning to kill off Blu-ray's future.
Neither have made enough of an impact to make this choice so early. 98% of the video-purchasing/renting public are staying away. A_S's numbers render themselves less than meaningless when viewed among the complete picture... I believe there are still more laserdisc players being used than HD disc player of both formats.
This format war will not be won by the disc with the largest capacity, nor the cheapest players, but by whatever format the general, non-technogeek public chooses to buy in mass quantities, for whatever obscure reason they choose to do so.
I find fanboys of both ilks annoying, with their arguments filled with opinions based on trivial numbers.
I know I am not alone on this. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VibroCount: Quote:
So far, HD discs' sales impact has been meaningless in the big picture. Blu-ray fanatics have been claiming for longer than a year now that HD DVD is a dead format, using many reasoned and not-so-reasoned arguments to fill out the HD DVD death note. Not with Paramount's choice of HD DVD exclusivity, the HD DVD fans have their own reasoning to kill off Blu-ray's future.
Neither have made enough of an impact to make this choice so early. 98% of the video-purchasing/renting public are staying away. A_S's numbers render themselves less than meaningless when viewed among the complete picture... I believe there are still more laserdisc players being used than HD disc player of both formats.
This format war will not be won by the disc with the largest capacity, nor the cheapest players, but by whatever format the general, non-technogeek public chooses to buy in mass quantities, for whatever obscure reason they choose to do so.
I find fanboys of both ilks annoying, with their arguments filled with opinions based on trivial numbers.
I know I am not alone on this. This is an HD DVD and Blu-ray thread, it is not a Hidef vs. DVD thread. Start your own. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 844 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pplchamp: This is an HD DVD and Blu-ray thread, it is not a Hidef vs. DVD thread. Start your own. Blu Ray fans are SOOO touchy.  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bob9000: Quote:
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This is an HD DVD and Blu-ray thread, it is not a Hidef vs. DVD thread. Start your own. Blu Ray fans are SOOO touchy. Maybe we want an on topic thread. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 844 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pplchamp: Quote:
Maybe we want an on topic thread. Nah, it is more like Blu Ray folks don't like being shown that any lead they may have is completely meaningless in the face of the market as a whole. I am sure HD DVD folk would feel the same...if not as stridently.  | | | | Last edited: by bob9000 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 460 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bob9000: Quote:
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This is an HD DVD and Blu-ray thread, it is not a Hidef vs. DVD thread. Start your own.
Blu Ray fans are SOOO touchy. And so are some HD DVD fans | | | | Jean-Paul |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 844 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting JP_S: Quote:
And so are some HD DVD fans I am sure some are. I only get touchy in the face of manipulative wannabe fanboy shills (the ASC not pplchamp)...of course i only joined the HD DVD camp last week. I still fully expect to see an affordable and well-designed dual format player on the market LONG before either side in this argument gives up. When it does i totally plan to have my cake (Sony, Disney, Fox) and eat it (Paramount, Universal) too. | | | | Last edited: by bob9000 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
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Cliff...
No one cares about DVD compared to Hidef. It's apples and oranges..
I think you have that backwards...nobody cares how many HD discs have been sold as it isn't even a drop in the home entertainment bucket. Neither side has convinced Joe Public that they need HD. Until they do, it is a niche market at best. No one SHOULD care about DVD's performance 10 years in it's lifecycle when compared to 14 - 17 months into HD's performance. I see time means nothing to some. The INTELLIGENT thing to do would be to compare HD's performance so far to DVD's performance 14 - 17 months in it's lifecycle. It doesn't get much more simple than that. | | | To err is human...
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 844 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote:
It doesn't get much more simple than that. There is the wafting stench of desperation again.  | | | | Last edited: by bob9000 |
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