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Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:

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Like I said to you before, owning both formats does not keep you from falling prey to the HD DVD Evangelism.

         

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Okay, we have two sides here - both are accusing the other side of being wrong while they are right.

Sounds like politics.

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Okay, we have two sides here - both are accusing the other side of being wrong while they are right.

Sounds like politics.

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Quoting Dr. Killpatient:

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Okay, we have two sides here - both are accusing the other side of being wrong while they are right.

Sounds like politics.

That's a serious over-simplification of the situation.  It's more like one side and that other guy.  For the most part the one side is trying to be open-minded and educate themselves.  At least we were before you know who know who showed up.  Some lean more to one side or the other and the rest are firmly in the middle.  But everyone is willing to listen to everyone else.

Then there's the other guy.  He's only interested in the truth as presented by Sony.  I've fought him in the past and discovered it's less productive than banging my head against the wall.  At least that produces results, though not necessarily positive results.  And they both end with a headache.  Don't get me wrong.  I admire his enthusiasm, commitment, knowledge (though I don't feel it's well rounded) and his willingness to fight so fiercely for poor little Sony.  If he would learn to be a little more open minded, he'd actually be a fun addition to the conversation.

Anyway, to paint everyone with the same brush is an insult if you ask me.

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Dude, you really need help.  The article is still there for all to see.  The title of that article (and many others about the same subject) has 4 key things in all of them...Blu-ray...Mitsubishi...3D...Demonstration (Demo).

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No one needs to discredit you.  The stuff you spout sometimes screams "disconnected from reality".  You need to do something...call a hotline...get a doctor...click your heels 3 times...something!  I'm really starting to get worried about you...honestly.  Just tell me your just f'ing with me or something. 

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First off, I tried something similar a few 10 pages or so ago of asking for people to list pros and cons of both formats and it didn’t go anywhere. So the “challenge” A_S is suggesting I feel will end the same way. There are way too much personal feelings tied to the posts here. I think debating pro choice would be an easier task. But that is neither here nor there.

I have a few points that I feel worth mentioning to fuel…I mean add to this discussion –debate –argue -insult or mere venting arena. The way I learn is to read as much as possible about the topic. I start from literature from the company and move out. Then I try and read as many user reviews as possible. Check Consumer Reports for any information. Then I branch out to friends co-workers and forums. I find all kinds of information. A lot of it is very similar to what we see here. But I feel my experience has taught me to read through the lines or some cases the crap and pull out any pertinent information.
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A few posts ago the topic of Region free discs were mentioned and the pros as to why discs should be released region free. A_S responded with a very good explanation to this. Very simple, region encoding is the way distributors protect release dates across the world. Is this the best way? Unfortunately that is not for us to decide.
HD media is a new concept to a conservative business model. We barely have 1080i tv programming as it is. It has taken over 7 years for what little HD content there is to be broadcasted. It’s like HD tv is something new. I mean is 1080 resolution a huge achievement? Not in the grand scheme of things. So let’s be realistic here. Movie distributors don’t give a damn about the consumers and giving them a better product. The only they are doing it is to sell more product. If they cared about quality you wouldn’t have the broad spectrum of crap standard def DVD’s that exist today. For example: look at Days of Thunder. It is a horrible DVD. It looks like they went to blockbuster and rented the VHS version and brought it back and pushed play and record on their DVDr.  Then you have LotR EE discs. Forget the extra content and added footage. The quality of sound and picture is superb.

So until the studios can create a minimum standard of what is to be considered “HD” media, I think the format war isn’t the only problem.

On to my pros and cons of the formats:
HD-DVD and Blu-ray for the most part of about the same amount of titles available. Regardless of the type of titles they are more or less right around the same number. As far as studio support I think they are split down the middle. Yes some studios have a larger library then the others, but until they start releasing more titles this will still hold true. So what does this mean, it means if you choose to be an early adopter and decide on a single format then the current titles and planned releases will play largely on your decision over tech specs.
The infamous capacity debate, this can’t be argued. Sony has a larger capacity end of story. Whether or not it will impact the release I think is yet to be determined. I think the standardization of codecs is a bigger problem than capacity. Now for the HD-DVD fans, if capacity becomes an issue remember they can always include an extra disc at a nominal fee.

Now on to tech specs; Sony has much more horsepower and potential then HD-DVD.  But the real question is this nothing more than a Mercedes Benz with a Toyota engine. As of right now it is. To continue using my car metaphor HD-DVD is well equipped Camry and for almost all people (average consumer) this will do just fine. The problem with more features is that is simply costs more to make. For every disc that utilizes java based programming ads to the cost of production for the movie. Unless they are going to charge more for those discs, which I find it hard to justify. But Sony may already be aware of this and has planned accordingly. Sony may also justify the cost to have their product stand out over the competitors. Aside from the higher cost of players Sony isn't really charging more for their products. So it can easily be argued that why not go for the more attractive and well equipped Mercedes Benz with a Camry engine, remember if you buy now we can always through in a Mercedes engine later at almost no cost to you.

That’s all for now.