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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorm.cellophane
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Good lord, a 72 page thread of people continually responding to some blu-ray troll?  Ken really needs to start working on some sort of kill filter. 

This is just a continuation of the same 105-page thread at Intervocative. So that puts us at 177!!   

EDIT: 178! 
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Good lord, a 72 page thread of people continually responding to some blu-ray troll?  Ken really needs to start working on some sort of kill filter. 

This is just a continuation of the same 105-page thread at Intervocative. So that puts us at 177!!   

EDIT: 178! 

  Holy crap!

That's just...wow.  I'd hate to see what happens when something that actually matters comes up! 
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See how knowledgeable this CTO is about HD DVD.  This is taken directly from the article.

Bell seems to be very schooled on the abilities and capabilities of Blu-ray and HD DVD.   


Sorry A_S, but your attempt to impeach Alan Bell's credibility isn't going to work. The man has a PhD in physics and has been involved in optical disc development since 1982, and has been awarded patents in relation to optical discs and digital media.

What you are giving is his history.  Technology is constantly evolving.  It is extremely hard to stay up with those aspects when you are that high up. 

I see you happened to leave out his quote.  So, are you saying that HD DVD is still working on 45GB HD DVDs?  If not, you know where his HD DVD knowledge level is on that...period.


Love it!  Blu-ray fanboy A_S now claims to know more. be better versed, and "more up to date" in DVD / HiDef disc knowledge than Dr. Bell, a pioneer in optical disc technology! 

                 
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For the HD DVD zealots, I know..."it doesn't mean anything". 


A Zealot does not have an open mind and grabs at any bit of information, real or imagined, that supports their position.  I wonder who in this thread that applies to? 

You...without question...and a few others.  Anyone that can't bring themselves to accept that HD DVD as a format can fit neatly within the parameters of the Blu-ray format would fit in that category.

Wow, you really lost the plot -- more than usual -- on these last few pages.

For the record, guys, the "A-man" and 45GB references are to a planned triple layer disc from HD DVD which Ascended_Saiyan kept nagging about until finally Amir (HD DVD/VC-1 insider and, uh, "A-man") visited this board and shot down that 'rumor.'  Now he's using info provided to him by someone working for HD DVD (so to speak, the codec will be used for a ton of BD stuff also) against HD DVD... funny.

It's not that long ago either so one must assume Bell either mentioned the wrong name or hasn't heard yet.  Ascended_Saiyan of course expects him to know within 30 seconds.
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Michael Bay: No Blu-ray? No Transformers 2!
By BetaNews Staff, BetaNews
August 21, 2007, 10:55 AM
Apparently miffed at Paramount's announcement yesterday that it would only offer movies in HD DVD format and not Blu-ray after testing both formats for a year, director Michael Bay says he will not make a second "Transformers" movie - which may or may not be a bad thing depending on your tastes.

"I want people to see my movies in the best formats possible. For them to deny people who have Blu-ray sucks! They were progressive by having two formats. No Transformers 2 for me!" Bay wrote in a forum posting on his "Shoot for the Edit" Web site. The response highlights the frustration that both directors and consumers are experiencing with competing high-definition formats.

*snickers*

Michael Bay Tries HD DVD, Likes It:

A day after protesting a decision by Paramount to only support HD DVD and threatening not to make a second "Transformers" movie, Michael Bay has apparently had a change of heart after seeing the format in action. He apologized in a forum post Tuesday evening for drinking the Blu-ray "kool aid."

"Last night at dinner I was having dinner with three blu-ray owners, they were pissed about no Transformers Blu-ray and I drank the kool aid hook line and sinker. So at 1:30 in the morning I posted - nothing good ever comes out of early am posts mind you - I over reacted. I heard where Paramount is coming from and the future of HD and players that will be close to the $200 mark which is the magic number. I like what I heard.

As a director, I'm all about people seeing films in the best quality possible, and I saw and heard firsthand people upset about a corporate decision.

So today I saw 300 on HD, it rocks!

So I think I might be back on to do Transformers 2!

Michael Bay"

Erik

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I hear Bay may run for President. He's already flip-flopping.
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I hear Bay may run for President. He's already flip-flopping.


I think you were ready to vote for him about 2 pages back in this thread!!!

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I hear Bay may run for President. He's already flip-flopping.


It's a sad day indeed when a guy can't change his mind. 
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I hear Bay may run for President. He's already flip-flopping.


It's a sad day indeed when a guy can't change his mind. 



Ooh Shock and Horror A_S has changed his mind        

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I hear Bay may run for President. He's already flip-flopping.


It's a sad day indeed when a guy can't change his mind. 


Rumor has it that Bay was paid $10 milllion to change his mind     
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Rumor has it that Bay was paid $10 milllion to change his mind     
 
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Funny how Bill Hunt was sooo great and couldn't be wrong at any point until he stopped riding the HD DVD train.  Then he magically became a bastard.  Some people...

There's nothing magic about it. Prior to the Paramount announcement I had no disrespect towards the man, but when he lowers himself to using terms like "greedy little bastards" and "Moneysoft"... well, yeah, I tend not to think as highly of him any more. By losing it like that he simply comes across as nothing more than an internet fanboy.

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BD is continuing its lackluster trend of not including any extras, not even a PCM track this time. And this is from Sony (Columbia), supposedly the flagbearer for Blu-ray... 

Only Blu makes it possible, right?

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Sadly it would appear that Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are barebones, with no extras carried over from the DVD releases whatsoever...

Spider-Man

    * 1080P 1.85:1 Widescreen
    * English Dolby True HD 5.1 Surround
    * English Audio Description Track 5.1
    * Czech, Hungarian and Russian DD5.1 Surround
    * Subtitles: English, English HOH, Arabic, Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, Greek, Hebrew, Hindi, Hungarian, Icelandic, Norwegian, Polish, Romanian, Slovene, Swedish, Turkish


Spider-Man 2 - Also includes Spider-Man 2.1 which features 8 minutes of additional footage.

    * 1080P 2.40:1 Widescreen
    * English Dolby True HD 5.1 Surround
    * English Audio Description Track 2.0
    * Czech and Polish (VO) DD5.1 Surround
    * Subtitles: English, English HOH, Arabic, Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Greek, Hebrew, Hindi, Icelandic, Polish, Romanian, Slovene, Turkish


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Only Blu makes it possible, right?

If you didn't have 50GB of space, how are you going to fit all those different subtitles? 
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Funny how Bill Hunt was sooo great and couldn't be wrong at any point until he stopped riding the HD DVD train.  Then he magically became a bastard.  Some people...

There's nothing magic about it. Prior to the Paramount announcement I had no disrespect towards the man, but when he lowers himself to using terms like "greedy little bastards" and "Moneysoft"... well, yeah, I tend not to think as highly of him any more. By losing it like that he simply comes across as nothing more than an internet fanboy.

KM


I agree.  I didn't always agree with him prior to this week, but at least I respected his opinion.  What kills me is that we have a VP from Microsoft saying that they didn't pay a cent towards this deal.  And he's emailed Bill this information.  Yet Bill refuses to update his site to reflect this new information.  He's choosing instead to let the incorrect information stand.  I guess he's more interested in stirring the pot than posting the news.  I don't mind (or understand) this behavior from most people, but Bill is crossing a line in my opinion.
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BD is continuing its lackluster trend of not including any extras, not even a PCM track this time. And this is from Sony (Columbia), supposedly the flagbearer for Blu-ray... 

Only Blu makes it possible, right?

Well, in all fairness, TrueHD = PCM as long as the 'bits' and such match up.

To quote a friend:

    "PCM is a waste of time. TrueHD is lossless. That means that when you unpack it, it's identical to the original bitstream. Much like zipping/unzipping. So PCM is like sending a 10MB Word doc through email, rather than a 5MB Zip of it. Sorta. "

But stripping all extras from the first two, and best, Spidey films is very unfortunate indeed.

Ironically enough I just had a brief chat with Sony asking "what gives?" when it comes to their "HD Superbit" releases...

Here's the big ol' statement:

    "We have run outside studies as well as a poll in AVS and the consistent message is that extras are a distant second to sound and picture. To that end, we are starting to use Dolby THD for all the major languages worldwide. Keeping the audio and video quality at the highest levels seems to generate far more positive responses than the lack of SD added value generates. For newer titles where added value can be shot in HD, we are doing so and will include it. SD added value is not out completely, it is just included on a case by case basis."

I had comments for most of this, but shan't bore you guys with them.   Only, of course sound/picture is first, don't think anyone will disagree with this, it is also obvious that people will mostly talk about the PQ and audio.  Extras are more "taken for granted" so to speak, but that doesn't mean people don't want or appreciate them...
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