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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Patsa: Quote:
Here in R2 land many times the covers will list the NTSC/film length, and not the 4% shorter runtime of PAL. This is by far the most common error on our covers. That and spelling mistakes, seems no one here knows their native language... 
(And unfortunately by the rules we have to reproduce them all.) Forgot to mention the shorter PAL runtime in my list of reasons. | | | Schultzy - http://www.michaelschultz.net
grenactics - The art of skillfully fraggin one’s opponent with the use of grenades or other compact explosive devices that are thrown by hand or projected. |
| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd never thought about spelling mistakes before. Other errors we correct so why do we duplicate those?  |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
I'd never thought about spelling mistakes before. Other errors we correct so why do we duplicate those? As far as I am aware, it was to make sure that every user started from a level playing field. Because we copy the overview "exactly as written" it means we all have the same source from which to check the submission. For example, the word "color" appears in an overview as part of a title for a British film, but on a US DVD. Some users would argue it should be "colour", others "color". By insisting on exact duplication, all these arguments become moot. |
| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks. I can understand the reasoning and logic behind that decision. |
| | Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 19 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
This rating system too is strangely fascist and reminds me of my days living in the former German Democratic Republic where everything nonconform gets watched and supervised. An elitist group of users will get their teeth into your neck for every critical or mildly satirical comment as well. Do you actually check your reputation status? Have you in any way noticed any restrictions by the forum software after you've received red zingers? I've actually lived in the GDR and I don't take such comparisons lightly. If you compare every officer who gives you a ticket for speeding with the Gestapo then it'll lose its impact and its meaning. You actually lived in the GDR? That must be the reason why you like visiting these forums so much! Sorry, I'm joking again. But a grand-uncle I used to visit quite often lived near Zwickau and worked for the railroad. His superiors had this evaluation system and he never did get good ratings because he was a good worker but only because he was a conformist, never critizising the system and it's values or asking critical questions. Like many members here he lived by the rules and the rules only. I don't want to start this ratings-discussion again, but do you remember this guy "Ascended Schlagmichtot" who used write in that "Blue-Ray against HDV"-forum all the time? He was a real pain in the ass, so in the end everybody made his comments invisible. He was in fact censored. And censorship is not an answer (and he was always right about the outcome of the format-war but that's another story). I know my ratings will never become so bad that I am not allowed to post anymore for a period of time but just the mere fact that it is possible bugs me. Oh, and I actually DID once compare a traffic warden with the "Gestapo", but only because he kept shouting "Heil Hitler" all the time. | | | | "Aaaah, Smithers! Listen to the mirthless laughter of the dammned!" |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting MrBurns: Quote:
I don't want to start this ratings-discussion again, but do you remember this guy "Ascended Schlagmichtot" who used write in that "Blue-Ray against HDV"-forum all the time? He was a real pain in the ass, so in the end everybody made his comments invisible. He was in fact censored. And censorship is not an answer (and he was always right about the outcome of the format-war but that's another story). That is an utterly rediculous statement  . How do you equate one's personal choice not to see that particular user's posts with censorship? Ascended was in no way hindered in expressing his opinions on these forums. Any user that didn't have Ascended blocked was free to read what he had to say and freely respond. There was no censorship whatsoever  . | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting MrBurns: Quote:
I don't want to start this ratings-discussion again, but do you remember this guy "Ascended Schlagmichtot" who used write in that "Blue-Ray against HDV"-forum all the time? He was a real pain in the ass, so in the end everybody made his comments invisible. He was in fact censored. And censorship is not an answer (and he was always right about the outcome of the format-war but that's another story). I am sorry but I don't believe that word means what you think it means. Choosing not to read someone's posts, for whatever reason, is not censorship. Removing his posts, so that others can't read them, is. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
Quoting MrBurns:
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I don't want to start this ratings-discussion again, but do you remember this guy "Ascended Schlagmichtot" who used write in that "Blue-Ray against HDV"-forum all the time? He was a real pain in the ass, so in the end everybody made his comments invisible. He was in fact censored. And censorship is not an answer (and he was always right about the outcome of the format-war but that's another story).
That is an utterly rediculous statement . How do you equate one's personal choice not to see that particular user's posts with censorship? Ascended was in no way hindered in expressing his opinions on these forums. Any user that didn't have Ascended blocked was free to read what he had to say and freely respond. There was no censorship whatsoever . Quoting Unicus69 Quote:
I am sorry but I don't believe that word means what you think it means. Choosing not to read someone's posts, for whatever reason, is not censorship. Removing his posts, so that others can't read them, is. You guys are both on the mark. If someone is forbidden to speak, he is censored. If he can speak but no one chooses to listen to him (by blocking him) he isn't censored, just ignored. That's a big difference. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges.
DVD Profiler user since June 15, 2001 |
| | Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 19 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
Quoting 8ballMax:
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Quoting MrBurns:
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I don't want to start this ratings-discussion again, but do you remember this guy "Ascended Schlagmichtot" who used write in that "Blue-Ray against HDV"-forum all the time? He was a real pain in the ass, so in the end everybody made his comments invisible. He was in fact censored. And censorship is not an answer (and he was always right about the outcome of the format-war but that's another story).
That is an utterly rediculous statement . How do you equate one's personal choice not to see that particular user's posts with censorship? Ascended was in no way hindered in expressing his opinions on these forums. Any user that didn't have Ascended blocked was free to read what he had to say and freely respond. There was no censorship whatsoever .
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I am sorry but I don't believe that word means what you think it means. Choosing not to read someone's posts, for whatever reason, is not censorship. Removing his posts, so that others can't read them, is.
You guys are both on the mark. If someone is forbidden to speak, he is censored. If he can speak but no one chooses to listen to him (by blocking him) he isn't censored, just ignored. That's a big difference. You guys call yourself native speakers? There is a HUGE difference between ignoring someone and blocking him. If you had wanted to ignore him you easily could have just decided not to read what he had written. By blocking him you prevent people from being able to read him, namely yourself and everyone who is using your computer. Ignoring is not chosing to read it, blocking is censoring (even if it's on a comperatively very small scale). | | | | "Aaaah, Smithers! Listen to the mirthless laughter of the dammned!" |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | nevermind . | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection | | | | Last edited: by Bad Father |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting MrBurns: Quote:
Quoting kdh1949:
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You guys are both on the mark. If someone is forbidden to speak, he is censored. If he can speak but no one chooses to listen to him (by blocking him) he isn't censored, just ignored. That's a big difference.
You guys call yourself native speakers? There is a HUGE difference between ignoring someone and blocking him. If you had wanted to ignore him you easily could have just decided not to read what he had written. By blocking him you prevent people from being able to read him, namely yourself and everyone who is using your computer. Ignoring is not chosing to read it, blocking is censoring (even if it's on a comperatively very small scale). No, you're simply mistaken about blocking. I know full well the meaning of the words and you are placing much too strict an interpretation on censorship. Blocking is simply a mechanism I choose to use to ignore him -- nothing more. He's still free to say whatever he wants -- just not to me. He doesn't have any right to force me to listen to him or read him. And there is absolutely NO DIFFERENCE between blocking someone and ignoring him. It is precisely the same thing. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges.
DVD Profiler user since June 15, 2001 |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with kdh. With the strict definition you placed on "censorship", turning the TV off because you don't like the guy talking is censoring him. |
| | Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 19 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr. Killpatient: Quote:
I agree with kdh. With the strict definition you placed on "censorship", turning the TV off because you don't like the guy talking is censoring him. I want to repeat that this discussion is on a highly theoretical level and you should not take it as serious as you are taking everything else here. I am not comparing this forum to the chinese government but there still is the (albeit very tiny) possibility that a user gets so many bad ratings that he is not allwed to post anymore. The person in question wasn't rude or offensive to anyone, just very taken in by himself and it was actually recommended by some users to block him for that. So all I'm saying is it is this mob-mentality which prevails here that makes me feel slightly uneasy. | | | | "Aaaah, Smithers! Listen to the mirthless laughter of the dammned!" |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting MrBurns: Quote:
I want to repeat that this discussion is on a highly theoretical level and you should not take it as serious as you are taking everything else here. Spoilsport!  Quote:
I am not comparing this forum to the chinese government but there still is the (albeit very tiny) possibility that a user gets so many bad ratings that he is not allwed to post anymore. That is true, but judging by the offensive posts that have been made by people who do continue to post, that threshold must be very high - too high for it to be swayed by a group working together. Quote:
The person in question wasn't rude or offensive to anyone, just very taken in by himself and it was actually recommended by some users to block him for that. So all I'm saying is it is this mob-mentality which prevails here that makes me feel slightly uneasy. You're right, there can be a mob mentality on this forum, but that is human nature: groups of people together, either in person or in cyberspace, can easily become a mob. However, I think there are enough dissenters and free-thinkers on here to counter-balance that. And on a forum, no side can shout louder than the other. |
| | Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting brimac5477: Quote:
Just curious, does anyone else think some users are WAY too picky on what they vote yes or no on? I think it depends on what you're being picky about. I don't want there to be any factual errors about the film itself, whether it be title, length, credits, etc. I'm not particularly concerned personally about 100% correct formatting of overviews, or rating details, or who 'published' the DVD, etc. So picky is good for some things, and not so important for others, IMO. (But, if you don't have accurate information to contribute, it's best to contribute nothing.) --------------- |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting MrBurns: Quote:
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