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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 742 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Quoting Darxon:
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After reading the three pages, here's my take:
I'll keep in mind that Rifter actually welcomes entering wrong data for the benefit of a reduced work load. I'm sure others in this forum will make this one stick. I bet this statement will come back to haunt you in future discussions about accuracy vs. practicability and / or consistency, John.
First of all, don't presume to know what I would or would not welcome. If this were going by what *I* wanted, CoO wouldn't be there AT ALL. Sorry, John, but your "Default to US. That will be the end result for most of them anyway." (taken from this thread's thrird post) to me read like "Yeah, let's do it this way (defaulting the field to USA), it's the easiest." I'm sorry if I misread, but it wasn't clear to me that by saying "Let's do it like this" you actually meant "I don't want it to be done" (that's how I interpret "not welcoming this change, btw., maybe I'm wrong again...). Probably my fault, as English is not my native tongue, so I might not have picked up on a subtlety in your post. Never mind. | | | | Lutz |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 671 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Darxon: Quote:
I'd rather see something implemented to automatically update approved CoO without listing this update for preview, i. e. keeping these submissions in the voting and evaluation process, but taking them out of the user controlled update process (maybe something like the updaqte of the online list).
I'm with you on this. As it is now, it looks to me like new contributions are automatically approved and included when the database update is run. It should be possible to do the same for contributions where the only change is CoO, if this is not present in the online profile... | | | | The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet. (William Gibson) |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Off topic I know, but how come a topic about the most controversial field in Profiler can still be civil after 4 pages, but a discussion on Zsa Zsa Gabor's name (Zsa Zsa Gabor!!!) became a bitchy slanging match after page 2?  PS bitchy responses to this post are banned!!!  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,436 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DariusKyrak: Quote:
Just out of curiosity, can someone who still has version 2.x do a quick check on how many US locality profiles there are in 2.x vs. 3.x? I'm guessing that the figures will be relatively similar (maybe within 20% of each other) as compared with other localities (maybe 50% or less). I think it would be fair to assume that US will have a stronger bias of US movies than some other countries and if the US is better catered for in the new database, it strengthens the argument that those coming across will not be US films. 3.0.3: R1: 25.8% 2.5: R1: 19.4% Those numbers are R1, Any Locality, No region not included. | | | Achim [諾亞信； Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
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| Registered: March 23, 2007 | | Posts: 317 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ya_shin: Quote:
3.0.3: R1: 25.8%
2.5: R1: 19.4%
Those numbers are R1, Any Locality, No region not included. Actualy, I was meaning something a little different. By selecting a new DVD in version 3.x, I'm presented with 41,124 profiles for the US locality (all other setting as general as possible) and 793 for the Korean locality. What I'm suggesting is that in version 2.x, there may be more like 52,000 US profiles and 3000 Korean profiles. This would suggest a user driven transfer (a opposed to the automated one Ken is planning) of 80% for the US, but only 25% for Korea. That would suggest that a significant number of the untransferred profiles are not US locality. All 2.x figures and derivatives in the above are, of course, totaly made up. Anyway, it's a little hard to perform interpretation of just the percentages you've given, but it does indicate that the vast majority of profiles being transferred are not US locality, and hence are more likely to be non-US CoO. | | | This is a sig... ... ... yay...
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 302 |
| | Posted: | | | | CoO has nothing to do with regions. There is no logical inner relationship between (Maybe in the US for special, but not in a global view)
So, leave it blank! | | | regards, Mad -
My HD-Media, DVDs, Laserdiscs |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 775 |
| | Posted: | | | | I still think the merging is a bad idea full stop. I'm definitely against this COO thang |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 298 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting lyonsden5: Quote:
Voted for Some Other Cool Third Option Which I Shall List In My Reply
My cool third option:
Region 1 DVD default to USA as the CoO and all other regions have the field left blank. And what is the relationship between COO and region? None that I can see. My cool third option: Scan each cover for the colour red. Any cover with more than 30% must be from a communist country and should have the default COO set as such. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | I cannot support knowingly placing bad data into any profile.
Leave them blank. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 291 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | | "Vampirism is still not a disease, Julia. Vampires are the living dead...dead...dead..." |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 291 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
I cannot support knowingly placing bad data into any profile.
Leave them blank. ditto. i can't believe there are supporters of the "do it wrong regardless" choice, considering all the arguments about accuracy, documentation, and whether LotR was a new zealand or us production... if it can't be filtered in some way, leave it blank... as such, think i'll change my vote... krik  | | | | "Vampirism is still not a disease, Julia. Vampires are the living dead...dead...dead..." | | | | Last edited: by Krikarian |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | I changed my vote to "I honestly don't care". CoOs are being submitted without documentation and accepted without question. Defaulting to blank instead of something isn't going to change that.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,029 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Darxon: Quote:
I'd rather see something implemented to automatically update approved CoO without listing this update for preview, i. e. keeping these submissions in the voting and evaluation process, but taking them out of the user controlled update process (maybe something like the updaqte of the online list). No, please don't do that. The CoO-only updates are tiresome, but I don't want changes to my local database without being able to review them. | | | | Matthias |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 291 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goodguy: Quote:
Quoting Darxon:
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I'd rather see something implemented to automatically update approved CoO without listing this update for preview, i. e. keeping these submissions in the voting and evaluation process, but taking them out of the user controlled update process (maybe something like the updaqte of the online list).
No, please don't do that. The CoO-only updates are tiresome, but I don't want changes to my local database without being able to review them. ditto that, goodguy. | | | | "Vampirism is still not a disease, Julia. Vampires are the living dead...dead...dead..." |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 742 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ok, would you mind dropping by my place and check the bi-daily updates for me then? I'd appreciate it, and surely my girlfriend will, too... Damn, and I thought I was getting a little closer to getting some of my life back (anybody else experienced this during the time of the lawsuit?).  | | | | Lutz |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 775 |
| | Posted: | | | | I know what you mean! I spent a whole afternoon outside at one point! |
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