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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote: I expected more from someone that has a much higher IQ than me. You do know what IQ means right (since you seem to be having lapses in memory)?
We are in a website that is about DVDs...in a thread about Blu-ray and HD DVD...and all of a sudden people don't know what PQ and SQ means? OMG! I'm dealing with geniuses!
Well, boys and girls, PQ stands for picture quality. You know...like when reviews on DVDs are done (like the ones in your collections) they say PQ. Have you seen a DVD movie review from a major reviewer before, boys and girls?
When these DVD movies are playing, the thing you hear is called "sound". Now, based on what you learned earlier with PQ, what does the "Q" in SQ stand for? That's right boys and girls! It stands for quality. Therefore, SQ stands for "sound quality". Very good, class!
School is now out for the night. As I wrote, two 8th grade students, one from Leroy Greene, another from Rio Tierra, did not know what PQ and SQ were and to what level your numbers within each meant. Yet, quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote: An 8th grader knows what those number mean. If you can't get something that self explanatory, all I can say is WOW. So you have some random numbers, without an explanation of how they were pulled out of someone's sphincter, describing PQ & SQ, claiming that an 8th grader would understand them, and that your IQ is miniscule. What do I not understand? How you can think you are accomplishing anything other than offending each one of us, both individually and en masse. Give it up. You've lost every battle, you've lost the war, you've lost your intented audience. Are you so out of touch with reality that you cannot feel the concentrated hatred directed toward everything you write, and toward you personally? Your numbers remain out of context, without verification, without ascribing authorship, without even describing the scale... yet you continue to insult me. You refuse to give context, because the numbers are so close and, ultimately, subjective that they are meaningless. Your numbers are wearing no clothes, yet you continue to remark about how delicate, rich and nuanced the cloth is, how precisely the cloth is cut and sewn, and how perfect the fit of these nonexistant garments are. We see through the invisible nothings, call you on your deceptions, and you answer by insulting us. You remain a troll. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote: That's right...don't attack the information because you can't. Everytime I post a link it's from someone else (just like anyone else). Why scream plagiarism, now? Why not scream plagiarism on yourself? This isn't a book or article. How does your post make any sense? My post makes sense because you didn't post a link. Posting a link requires that there actually be a link in the post. Maybe I am missing something, but there wasn't a link in the post Mark made mention of. You wrote that post as if it was your own and made no mention that you got it from someone else...I believe that is the basic definition of plagiarism. Quote: You guys are the real cream of the crop. ...Real forward thinkers. Why? Because we call a spade a spade? Quote: BTW, this is where I got the information from. Dobyblue and I also converse sometimes as well on Blu-ray.com. That's where we get part of our insider information from. Now see, had you mentioned this in the original post it wouldn't have been plagiarism. Not that hard to understand now is it? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote: The numbers prove how much Blu-ray has improved since inception. They were a joke a year ago, but they've now pulled ahead of HD DVD in both picture and sound quality. If you're a Blu-ray supporter.
Or the numbers are completely meaningless based on a huge number of reasons. Because they're comparing different movies on different formats with no indication of any possible bias of the reviewer. Or because it's "well known" that Blu-ray means the PS3 which in turn means they'll be getting the latest films in general (thus better source material) over the more mature HD DVD crowd and their wider spread of new and old (thus possibly worse source material). If you're an HD DVD supporter.
At the end of the day, you read your own prejudices into the numbers to support whatever point of view makes you happy. But that doesn't answer the question. What method are they using to measure PQ? Is the the HE method or is it the BE method? Or is it a combination of the two? And exactly how many of them are being used to get this PQ number? For those unwashed masses, 'HE' stands for Hairy Eyeball and 'BE' stands for Bald Eyeball. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
| Posted: | | | | He doesn't post the source because he doesn't know the source. He copies and pastes from another website which also doesn't list the source.
Regurgitation, plain and simple.
Picture and sound quality has nothing to do with the format. A studio can put out a top-quality movie or not. It's as simple as that. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote: Quoting VibroCount:
Quote: Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
Quote: Quoting Battling Butler:
Quote: Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
Quote: I still don't know what the numbers mean.
and A_S will never tell you. It seems they are nothing but an average of arbitrary and subjective viewer ratings from various internet reviewers. Interesting, but basically meaningless without objective standards. An 8th grader knows what those number mean. If you can't get something that self explanatory, all I can say is WOW.
I declare shenanigans.
The numbers are arbitrary, subjective, meaningless, and the non-identified letters above the numbers even more so.
You post idiocy, and then declare that any 8th grader understands.
Garbage.
I asked two 8th graders, neither had ever seen number like yours... meaningless without context. What is a PQ? What is SQ? What exactly is being totalled? Are these average 1-to-4 star ratings? By whom & why should we care? On what objective scale are these numbers drawn, or are they by paid reviewers who are shilling for their various formats? You refuse to explain and insult us while you continue to hold up these garbage numbers for us to oooh and ahhh at... We will not, because we can not.
Meaningless blather is all you offer us. And then you insult us when we call you on it. Obviously you are a terrible, rotten, no good version of a shill. If you cannot dazzle us with your footwork, you insult us while we heckle your lack of talent.
Either explain your numbers or quit posting with your nose-in-the-air attitude. I explained my attitude towards you and your post to you privately.
Numbers without context are completely meaningless. You post other peoples' words without credit. You pass yourself off as something you are not.
You are the biggest pain we have these days, making Skip's rants seem like a sunset-lit walk along Malibu Beach.
Explain yourself and these garbage numbers -- do not hide behind insults because you are unworthy to make them. Or stop, because your shilling is failing. Your actions are inept, and your mission has failed so the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions. I expected more from someone that has a much higher IQ than me. You do know what IQ means right (since you seem to be having lapses in memory)?
We are in a website that is about DVDs...in a thread about Blu-ray and HD DVD...and all of a sudden people don't know what PQ and SQ means? OMG! I'm dealing with geniuses!
Well, boys and girls, PQ stands for picture quality. You know...like when reviews on DVDs are done (like the ones in your collections) they say PQ. Have you seen a DVD movie review from a major reviewer before, boys and girls?
When these DVD movies are playing, the thing you hear is called "sound". Now, based on what you learned earlier with PQ, what does the "Q" in SQ stand for? That's right boys and girls! It stands for quality. Therefore, SQ stands for "sound quality". Very good, class!
School is now out for the night.
In other news, Fox has announced 22 titles for France.
Here is a link of the news in English. Blah, blah, blah, blah... | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 811 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr. Killpatient: Quote: I just heard from some source that Blockbuster has reversed their decision to be Blu-Ray exclusive and will go exclusively with HD-DVD. Hollywood Video, in a rare bout of agreement, has also decided that they will only carry HD-DVD titles. Looks like it's the landfill for Blu-Ray discs!
Multiple Blu-Ray player manufacturers are expected to go bankrupt due to the expected sudden decline in Blu-Ray player & disc sales.
It looks like the format war is over! Awesome ... let me guess, your source is an inside tipster from an unnamed retailer |
| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Battling Butler: Quote: Awesome ... let me guess, your source is an inside tipster from an unnamed retailer You know him too??? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 775 |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Nadja: Quote: He's my uncle! Would that be Napoleon Solo or Illya Kurakin ? Steve |
| Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting snarbo: Quote: Quoting Nadja:
Quote: He's my uncle!
Would that be Napoleon Solo or Illya Kurakin ?
Steve Nope - Uncle Fester! |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,127 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr. Killpatient: Quote: He doesn't post the source because he doesn't know the source. He copies and pastes from another website which also doesn't list the source. The source is in the links, dude. Anyone that can read should be able to go back through all of these pages and see that the link that I point to are the sources (if links are involved). How many links has anyone else pointed to that's not a blog site? That's what I thought. Quote: Regurgitation, plain and simple. Regurgitation is better than a lot of you guys just making it up as you go along, but I guess that's better when looking through rose-colored HD DVD or rose-colored hate glasses. Facts are to be regurgitated. You didn't know that? Quote: Picture and sound quality has nothing to do with the format. A studio can put out a top-quality movie or not. It's as simple as that. That's not accurate. Anything to dance around that FACT that Blu-ray exclusive studios are producing higher picture and sound quality on average than the HD DVD exclusive competition. Why didn't King Kong has a lossless soundtrack (this where you say I don't care about that)? The TRUTH is that picture and sound quality has something to do with the format in particular cases. If you don't have the space on your disc format to house the amount of bits it takes to experience a 24-bit/48kHz lossless soundtrack and a "transparent to the master" video encode, THAT is the format's fault. If you don't have the bandwidth on your format to pass through the amount of bits per second it takes to experience a 24-bit/48kHz lossless soundtrack and a "transparent to the master" video encode, THAT is the format's fault. Everything that's not a result (or side effect) of the two situations listed above is not the format's fault. It's as simple as THAT. | | | To err is human... ----------- 473 Blu-ray Titles |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote: Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
Quote: He doesn't post the source because he doesn't know the source. He copies and pastes from another website which also doesn't list the source. The source is in the links, dude. Anyone that can read should be able to go back through all of these pages and see that the link that I point to are the sources (if links are involved). How many links has anyone else pointed to that's not a blog site? That's what I thought.
Quote: Regurgitation, plain and simple. Regurgitation is better than a lot of you guys just making it up as you go along, but I guess that's better when looking through rose-colored HD DVD or rose-colored hate glasses. Facts are to be regurgitated. You didn't know that?
Quote: Picture and sound quality has nothing to do with the format. A studio can put out a top-quality movie or not. It's as simple as that. That's not accurate. Anything to dance around that FACT that Blu-ray exclusive studios are producing higher picture and sound quality on average than the HD DVD exclusive competition.
Why didn't King Kong has a lossless soundtrack (this where you say I don't care about that)?
The TRUTH is that picture and sound quality has something to do with the format in particular cases. If you don't have the space on your disc format to house the amount of bits it takes to experience a 24-bit/48kHz lossless soundtrack and a "transparent to the master" video encode, THAT is the format's fault.
If you don't have the bandwidth on your format to pass through the amount of bits per second it takes to experience a 24-bit/48kHz lossless soundtrack and a "transparent to the master" video encode, THAT is the format's fault.
Everything that's not a result (or side effect) of the two situations listed above is not the format's fault.
It's as simple as THAT. Blah, blah, blah, blah... | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,127 |
| Posted: | | | | Funai will introduce low cost BD players in North America in the fall. Funai is one of Wal-Mart's biggest CE suppliers. Guess where these players are going to end up. Hummm, that makes 2 low cost manufacturers that have announced BD players for this year. What manufacturer has announced a bottom of the barrel low cost HD DVD players? I keep hearing it mentioned, but I have never heard one Chinese manufacturer say they're making HD DVD players. I wonder why that is. | | | To err is human... ----------- 473 Blu-ray Titles |
| Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote: Funai will introduce low cost BD players in North America in the fall.
Funai is one of Wal-Mart's biggest CE suppliers. Guess where these players are going to end up.
Hummm, that makes 2 low cost manufacturers that have announced BD players for this year. What manufacturer has announced a bottom of the barrel low cost HD DVD players? I keep hearing it mentioned, but I have never heard one Chinese manufacturer say they're making HD DVD players. I wonder why that is. Oh Oh wait - I know the next line! Drum roll please for...8ballMax! | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,127 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote: Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
Quote: Funai will introduce low cost BD players in North America in the fall.
Funai is one of Wal-Mart's biggest CE suppliers. Guess where these players are going to end up.
Hummm, that makes 2 low cost manufacturers that have announced BD players for this year. What manufacturer has announced a bottom of the barrel low cost HD DVD players? I keep hearing it mentioned, but I have never heard one Chinese manufacturer say they're making HD DVD players. I wonder why that is.
Oh Oh wait - I know the next line! Drum roll please for...8ballMax! Oh Oh wait...let me guess. You are waiting for him to say blah, blah, blah, blah?! I'm right, again, aren't I? | | | To err is human... ----------- 473 Blu-ray Titles | | | Last edited: by Ascended_Saiyan |
| Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
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