Quoting skipnet50:

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Rick:

You brought up the Search issue, not me. Search is not my problem there is no search Online.

Skip

The functionality of the program is indeed our responsibility to address. The "Online" that you refer to is the master database from which we all obtain profile data for use in the program. It makes sense that the data we receive from the master database should be funtional with the program.

These dividers have been used as the role name before this version of the program.

If we now declare that bit of the credits to ONLY be a divider, what is the role name?

Do we also list this bit of the credits as the role name?

If we say that we can't list this data as the role, what do we list as the role?

We have no rule provision for keeping the role name empty. If we don't use this data in the role, we leave it open for user-created role names ("use another source" as the rules say). It would seem to me that putting the data in both places is the best way to ensure as-credited, otherwise, you leave the role open for somethinge else.

I have made my comments and they stand. I will make no further comments on this because I have had it and i will not even specify the specifics on that. GET TO WORK.

Skip

Quoting hal9g:

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Currently, the only reference to "dividers" is in the TV Series section of the Rules where they are referred to as episode dividers.

We do have this piece in the regular cast area:

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Do not include artificial actor entries to act as separators between cast lists. (e.g. "--JAPANESE CAST--"), instead use the Divider feature for this.

Quoting skipnet50:

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GET TO WORK.

I am at work.   

Quoting m.cellophane:

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Quoting hal9g:

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Currently, the only reference to "dividers" is in the TV Series section of the Rules where they are referred to as episode dividers.

We do have this piece in the regular cast area:

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Do not include artificial actor entries to act as separators between cast lists. (e.g. "--JAPANESE CAST--"), instead use the Divider feature for this.

Quoting skipnet50:

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GET TO WORK.

I am at work.   

Yup, I missed that part.  However, it is a very specific reference and does not address use of dividers as applied in this particular case, so I still think the Rules should be updated to addresss this if the community agrees to use dividers for this purpose, which , as I said, I would support.

Quoting Unicus69:

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Except the rules tell you to enter a role even if one isn't listed in the credtis...

If an actor is credited by name but does not have an associated role, you may use another source to identify the role. In each case, list Actor’s names and roles (when given) exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited.

There is an associated role here, it just happens to be in a header.  Even if it wasn't in the header, the rules tell you to enter a role.  Nowhere in the rules does it say to leave them blank. 

Instead of rolling your eyes, Unicus, perhaps you will show me where in the rules that you must enter a role.  I don't see it anwhere. The rule that says "If an actor is credited by name but does not have an associated role, you may use another source..." doesn't say you must do so.

How would you go about entering a role for an actor who is credited without one - and don't have any other source for the role he played?  Make one up?  Enter "actor" or "character?"

Methinks you are so eager to one-up Skip that you haven't thought out your argument so well.

Common problem, Ken. They aren't interested in the actual logic or Rules, they are interested in trying to slam Skip to the ground for having the temerity to take a stand. i have seen it all too many times.

Skip

Quoting skipnet50:

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Common problem, Ken. They aren't interested in the actual logic or Rules, they are interested in trying to slam Skip to the ground for having the temerity to take a stand. i have seen it all too many times.

Skip

As I said in the Rules committee forum you can't turn this on us (unless we let you). You and I started this discussion last night very politely (well I did  ) once things turned a way in which you didn;t like you start with the "everyone's against it because it's me" routine.

I hope everyone can ignore those references and stay on topic this time.

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Quoting Touti:

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I like the idea, I wish I had thought of that actually .  I know it's another discussion but I think the same logic could applys in the crew section to start entering units........noooooooooooooooo please don't shoot me all at the same time 

If you break up the crew using dividers it breaks them apart.  Then you really can't do as credited in the order they are credited.  Since most unit crews fall somewhere in the middle of the end credits.  Let's concentrate on getting the main crew before going down the road of unit crews. We still have a large number of profiles that only have the director.

That makes little sense. The crew listing is already out of order. Some sound crew are credited before other crew members in different sections.

Unless the crew listing is made to look like the cast listing, not grouped by section, it will never be in order.