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I don't get it... How stupid is the school system around here!?!
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How stupid is the school system around here?... Part 2

OK... this past Monday morning the school called me because Brittany got sick and they needed me to come pick her up. No problem... go and get her. That night she was supposed to sing in the choir concert. Obviously she didn't go. Too sick for school... to sick to sing for them in their concert.

This morning I find out that she needs a doctor's note for missing the concert!?!? Huh!?! They are the ones that sent her home... they knew she was sick. They shouldn't have expected her to come back a few hours later to sing for them! But know.... they want a doctor's note or they will give her a failing grade in her music class!?!

Needless to say I called the school... I couldn't talk to the person I needed to talk to as he was giving a test. But they said he would give me a call when he is done.

So while waiting for the call I went ahead and called Brittany's doctor about an excuse... from 3 days earlier! They said they don't normally give an excuse 3 days later... but when I told her the story of what is going on... she said... like I said... that makes no sense! And she made an exception for me and was faxing an excuse to them for me.

So now I sit here and wait for the school to call me back.
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Probably you'll be waiting forever...

You might tell them to look up the works of Franz Kafka in the school library. 
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Most educators these days won't even know who Kafka is let alone his works. 

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Most educators these days won't even know who Kafka is let alone his works.


Isn't he the guy who wrote the pilot episode of Night Court
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Most educators these days won't even know who Kafka is let alone his works. 

Rory


You might well be right on that one... 
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Well... I finally heard back from the school. Her music teacher (also in charge of choir) called me back. All apologetic. As it turns out Brittany has that class early in the morning. She went to the nurse's office a little after that class. And once the nurse sent her home, she forgot (or didn't know) to inform the music teacher that she did so and that she wouldn't make it to the concert. So as it turned out... I was correct in thinking there shouldn't had been a need for the doctor's note.

As I said... he was apologetic and said he talked to the nurse to be sure she knew to keep him in the loop from now on. But they got the doctor's note... even though they really didn't need it.... as it was all a case of miscommunication. 
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Reading your first post, that's what I assumed right away would be the issue: left hand not knowing what the right hand was doing.

Good that it got resolved through.
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all this would make for a good movie script .. then eventually a DVD to buy..
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Eh.... seems more likr a direct-to-DVD story to me.
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CYA is the current state of all public schools... teaching, books, math, language run way behind prohibitions on all "educators'" agendas. At my granddaughters' last school the gates are unlocked after classes start (emergency exit routes needed, by state law), then locked five minutes before classes end. They are all supposed to be simultaniously unlocked exactly at 3 pm, but only one guard has the keys, and she often forgets to unlock one or two gates, especially on rainy days, leaving students and their parents/grandparents/guardians on opposite sides of a locked gate with no shelter for either. It worked even more poorly the day she left the gate to the kindergarten classrooms locked for a long time after classes ended. The kindergarteners cannot be released from their classrooms without a guardian (those signed off by parents/guadians at the beginning of the school year), so they were forced to remain in the classes long after the release time. All this in the name of protecting the students. Not one student has ever been abducted or molested by outsiders in any school in this district... ever... (only by teachers, janitors, and other employees and volunteers) but the schools consider themselves the protectors of the students against, what... their families? I reminded the principal (and the school board) that they are our children, not theirs, and that the students' families ought to have access to the kids anytime. That the school teachers, administrators, janitors, aides, etc. have a higher rate of child abuse than the children's families. Yet the lockouts continue... Our kids are learning systematic stupidity, and not reading, writing, nor arithmetic.


Are the gates outside or inside?  In one instance it sounds like it's outside where as in the other it sounds like they're locked in the classroom.

If they're truely locked inside what happens in the case of a fire during the periods those gates are locked?  If that is the case, it sounds more like a violation of the law and a pending lawsuit for putting kids at risk.
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all this would make for a good movie script .. then eventually a DVD to buy..


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Are the gates outside or inside?  In one instance it sounds like it's outside where as in the other it sounds like they're locked in the classroom.

If they're truely locked inside what happens in the case of a fire during the periods those gates are locked?  If that is the case, it sounds more like a violation of the law and a pending lawsuit for putting kids at risk.

I don't know where VibroCount lives, but I work for a school district, as well as have kids in school, the gates we have are locked so that you can't enter the school without permission.  They can be opened from the inside just by pushing on the handle.  The actual doors, to the main entrance are, of course, unlocked so that visitors can check in at the office before heading to a class room or taking their child home.  I am glad that Vibro has never had an incident at his schools, but not everybody is that fortunate...I am looking at an incident report as I type this.

What he is talking about with the kinders is, they are kept in the classroom until the parent or guardian, the one listed on the emergency form, comes to pick them up.  This is done for the safety of the kids.  I don't care how smart you think your 5-year-old is, I have seen them do some stupid things...like wander into the parking lot which is quite busy with people picking up their kids.
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@Srehtims,
Wow, that is scary. It points out just how irrelevant the specifics of an 1895 education are to the educational needs of today. On the other hand, the compactness and demand for independent thinking are impressive.

I would venture that the number of sheer facts is easily 100,000 times more today than there were in 1895. And it takes many more than 5 hours of testing to get out of 8th grade these days. It is a challenge for parents and educators alike to focus on the right stuff. And even with the best of minds trying their hardest, seems like we still come up short.

You showed the standards back then ... any evidence as to whether folks felt any better about how well they were meeting them, than we feel about our system today?
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Around here, it isn't all about the school system, it's also the large percentage of students that would rather sell drugs, have kids as early as possible, and draw welfare as soon as possible than even thinking about getting a real education or a job that's a problem.

(And no, I'm not being harsh. These are words right out of the mouths of students from different teachers I've known for decades.)

I heard only a few weeks ago that The United States is somewhere like 38th in a world (instead of 5th or 6th when I was a kid) in terms of quality of education.
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Could be the OECD's country rankings, such as
this and
this.
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