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It is not necessary to document the source of the common name, outside the use of the CLT.  If there is a dispute over whether the credit references the same person, documentation may be necessary.  However, in most cases it is not required.

I have notified the evaluators to disregard general demands for specific documentation of common name outside the use of the CLT.

Users who prefer more rigidly documented common names are free to enforce those rules on their local data.

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Didn't know how else to describe this, but I'm working on a TV series and was wondering if I should include the art director (or any other crew member) under something like "New York Unit". In this one instance, the art director for the NY Unit is in the database and that person has worked before (in my collection it was a feature film).

So, do I include crews in other location units?

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As I read the rules, none of the Unit crew should be included. The rules state "For each category, include only those people credited with the roles listed in the "Film Credits to Include" column. If someone is not credited with one of these roles, do not include them in the Crew section."

That seems pretty clear to me. If I am missing something in the discussion, which is probable, let me know.

-Gerri

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Hi,

I have currently a contribution that is voted no upon.

It's about the original title of a german season box of an US series.

Currently the profile says:

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Title: Eine schrecklich nette Familie: Erste Staffel
Edition: (DVD)
Original Title: Married... with Children: Season 1

I try to change it to:

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Title: Eine schrecklich nette Familie: Erste Staffel
Edition: (DVD)
Original Title: Married... with Children: First Season

because that would be the original title and a literal translation of the season indicator.

No votes state:

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"Original Title: Use the title from the film's credits." The original Original Title doesn't contain 'First Season'.

IMHO that's the wrong rules since this falls into the "foreign films" category.

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Not covered by rules for Original Title or Foreign Film (not possible with a variety of titles). Perhaps OT without season indicator acceptable.

I agree that it's not exactly covered by the rules, but there are a lot of users who have the collection list set to "original title" and need that information. And I've seen countless season profiles (outside R1 country) where it is handled this way ("original title in CoO: translated season indicator").


What does the community say?

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Since there is no listing under the TV Series for Original Title in the rules, it make sense to me that you would follow the rules for the title field. This would be to include the season indicator in the orginal title.

I will add this clarification to the list so that it gets updated with the next rule update.

If people disagree with this, I am open to a civil discussion as to why it is not useful to have the season indicator in this field.

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I would suggest that you match the same text that you use in the standard title field. For simplicity's sake more than anything else. I am open to alternates if that is not what is desired.

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Quoting Gerri Cole:

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I would suggest that you match the same text that you use in the standard title field. For simplicity's sake more than anything else. I am open to alternates if that is not what is desired.

Wouldn't it make more sense for it to match the text that is in the original title field?

This:

Title: Eine schrecklich nette Familie: Erste Staffel
Original Title: Married... with Children: First Season

not this:

Title: Eine schrecklich nette Familie: Erste Staffel
Original Title: Married... with Children: Erste Staffel

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I didn't mean for you to switch languages in the field, I just mean if you have:

Title: TV Show A: Season 1
Then the original title would contain "Season 1", not  something like "First Season".

So my suggestion was to go with your first option, Unicus. I never meant to suggest the second option.

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Is listing 'DTS' as an edition correct?

I have a few profiles where this is the case. In the past when I have submitted to have it removed, it has been declined with users saying that it is stated on the cover.

For example, Minority Report (5039036014960) is listed as Minority Report: DTS. It has a DTS soundtrack and has the DTS logo above the DVD Video logo in the bottom left corner.

Seraphim Falls (5051429101224) also has a DTS soundtrack and the DTS logo on the front cover, but is listed as just Seraphim Falls.

Finally, X-Men 2 (5039036015035) also has a DTS soundtrack and the DTS logo on the back cover and is listed as X-Men 2: One-Disc Edition.

To clarify the point I'm trying to make; can you get specific DTS editions? This information can already be filtered easily, nor does it state on the cover specifically that is is a DTS Edition. You could then argure the title should be Minority Report: DVD Video?

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I went back and approved it. All the DVDs for that locality that have audio tracks listed (which is all but one) have a DTS track. The only one that does not is a promotional DVD. So I don't think the DTS in the edition field distinguishes this DVD from any of the others.

-Gerri

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DTS is a built in selection, but in this case the DTS does not distiguish this DVD from others, so it is inappropriate to use it in this case. Removing it is not against the rules.

I would agree that it seems outdated to have this as a built in - at one point it was unusual or distinguishing but not so much anymore.

-Gerri

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In this case, nothing was written on the cover. In the case where there is something like WIDESCREEN COLLECTION written on the cover, I think it needs to be included. The rule would end up being too subjective and hard to judge if you tried to apply the rule in such a way that if there are no DVDs out that don't include that feature then don't include it in the edition field even if it is on the cover. Doesn't mean the rule can't change, that is just my opinion.

-Gerri

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From an Invelos standpoint, there is nothing wrong with a partial contribution. Any accurate data is better than no data at all.

As someone said, it isn't a contest, so there is no need to worry about "inflating your numbers".

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From an Invelos standpoint, there is nothing wrong with a partial contribution. Any accurate data is better than no data at all.

As someone said, it isn't a contest, so there is no need to worry about "inflating your numbers".

Which is what I said.

There is nothing wrong with partial contributions and it is to be actively encouraged.

I was merely expressing a personal opinion that I would like to see more users filling in all the blanks they can (so to speak).

I would also like to point out that there are a lot of users who already do as I suggest - as evidenced by the contributions I see for voting. It would just be nice if more people did the same. After all this is a user built database and selfishness will not improve it....which is the very reason I returned to contributing after a decision to stop.  I just don't have it in me to keep my work to myself - if I've done it then I want everyone else to benefit from it too.

I agree with you. Very well said.

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Hi,

I was just about to register this Blu-ray disc in Profiler and got a surprise: Instead of the swedish BR release of "The Duchess" it said "Nim's Island".

Now, thinking about it, media companies must have made this mistake earlier so how do I enter this "new" UPC into Profiler, this can't be the first time it happens?

/Ulf

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The media company knew they had made a mistake, that's why they put a sticker with the correct EAN for The Duchess on the outside of the shrink wrap: 7312230505945

Unfortunately you can't produce a matching scan if you have thrown the sticker away... (as I did). So if you contribute this, be sure to mention why the EAN doesn't match the cover in your notes.

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Although it would be more convenient for these one-off mistake printings, I don't want to open the can of worms that would make stickered UPCs an official alternate entry ID.  In this case, if the printing is an error perhaps the distributor will correct it in subsequent runs.  In the mean time, disc ID is the suggested entry method.

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If the sticker is inside the shrinkwrap, I would have no problem accepting it as an alternate UPC.  However, if that conflicts with a different release now or in the future, it will likely be overwritten.

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The current Warner Bros. filter changes "Warner Brothers" and "Warner Bros" to "Warner Bros."  And, to start, I've added one to change "Metro Goldwyn Mayer" to "Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer"

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I've added a contribution filter to change "20th Century Fox Home Entertainment" to "Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment"

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In your contributions, you provided many links to sources for birth years, but you did not specify enough information about the actors themselves in the notes. In your notes, you should include which movies and or roles each person was in. You don't have to list them all, but you need to list something. "Actor X in movie Y is not the same as the producer of movie Z who also has name X", and also provide links to support both of their birth years, or at least the birth year you are adding.