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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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Quoting ObiKen:
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Here's others to add to the list:

out
per
pro
qua
via

I would also check whether the word is preceded by other characters, such as parenthesis or brackets, as this may result in the capitalization of the words before and after the character. If a comma precedes these special characters then it may only capitalise the following word. That is my observation, for what its worth.

Thank you! I already had "out", but I'm adding the rest. The word "qua" was new to me, I must admit. I had to look it up.
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By the way, Ken's tool has a quirk that doesn't seem to jell with AP rules:

it is a far-fetched idea
converts to
It Is a Far-Fetched Idea

However
it is a Far-fetched idea
converts to
It Is a Far-fetched Idea

So, hyphenated words are converted differently depending on if the first part is already hyphenated. Weird!
Not sure if I should embrace that...?

However, it looks like the AP rules would mean that the movie title "Gas-s-s-s" should be "Gas-S-S-S". 
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Why would "Off" be lower case for rating details since the guidelines state "For English profiles, capitalize all words except joining words"?

I don't know, but that's how Ken's capitalization tool does it, so I follow suit.


Ok, but that would be for titles. Why apply it to the rating details when the guidelines state:

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For English profiles, capitalize all words except joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc."
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Ok, but that would be for titles. Why apply it to the rating details when the guidelines state:
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For English profiles, capitalize all words except joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc."

I seriously doubt that Ken actually intended that different capitalization rules should apply to Titles and Rating Details.

The rule for Rating Details is vague:
capitalize all words except joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc.

My guess would be that the Titles rule started out equally vague, and then Ken decided to make it clearer by introducing the capitalization tool, but he neglected to clarify that the Rating Details should follow the same rule.
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If the Rating Details rule is followed literally then it also includes conjunctions such as [although, before, after, because, how, once, since, that, unless, until, when] as being in lower case because they are all joining words.

Was that the rules intention?
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If the Rating Details rule is followed literally then it also includes conjunctions such as [although, before, after, because, how, once, since, that, unless, until, when] as being in lower case because they are all joining words.

Was that the rules intention?

I highly doubt that. My guess would be that Ken wanted the Rating Details to mimic the capitalization that is often used in US Rating Details (but not in UK ones), for consistency. Not sure what rules studios followed when doing Rating Details, but likely one of the Title Capitalization rules.
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If the Rating Details rule is followed literally then it also includes conjunctions such as [although, before, after, because, how, once, since, that, unless, until, when] as being in lower case because they are all joining words.

Was that the rules intention?


The guidelines specifically mention joining words which are conjunctions, but not all conjunctions, and depending on use, are joining words.

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Ok, but that would be for titles. Why apply it to the rating details when the guidelines state:
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For English profiles, capitalize all words except joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc."

I seriously doubt that Ken actually intended that different capitalization rules should apply to Titles and Rating Details.

The rule for Rating Details is vague:
capitalize all words except joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc.

My guess would be that the Titles rule started out equally vague, and then Ken decided to make it clearer by introducing the capitalization tool, but he neglected to clarify that the Rating Details should follow the same rule.


I'm not sure we can assume that as Ken specifically mentioned "joining words" which "Off" is not.
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I'm not sure we can assume that as Ken specifically mentioned "joining words" which "Off" is not.

I stand by my belief that this phrase was a remnant of an early version of the rules, and that it may have been overlooked when the Title capitalization rule was refined. If it was that important to Ken that a different capitalization rule was needed for for capitalizing Rating Details, then I think that he would have made that rule a lot clearer. "Such as" and "etc" makes it very vague. But unless someone from Invelos steps up an clarifies thing - which seems highly unlikely - I guess we can never be 100% sure.
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