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I'm still not sure what I'm going to do.  Most likely I'll pick up the newest on HD DVD.  I'd love the boxset, but I'm not sure I can justify it since I already have the other movies on DVD.  I know they'd look better and all, and the set does look VERY nice, but it would also be nice to pick up 4 other movies on HD that I don't already own.

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Thousands of copies of Transformers probably "disappeared" to Europe. 

That very well could be.  But if Paramount is going to report worldwide sales, I'd think everyone else would as well.  Why let Paramount have all the fun.

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Well, if we are going to go by Neilson Video Scan numbers for the 160k, why wouldn't the 115k be an official number for Transformers? I'm sure that everyone could come out with a number that counts what Walmart might have sold.

If Neison reports 115k for Transformers and Paramount comes out with a 190k number, +75k....

Couldn't Disney come out and logiically claim that POTC sold 160k per Neilson numbers plus the same 75k sold at Walmart for a total of 235k? Would anyone believe it? I know I wouldn't. But, would there be proof? Sorta, most would point to the Neilson Video Scan numbers as showing that Disney was not being honest. Same thing people did with Paramount.

I don't know what Paramount sold, I don't know what Disney sold. But, according to the only source that counts titles on an equal basis, the numbers are 160k and 115k. Until there is a difinitive resource to count ALL units sold, that is the best we can go buy. Isn't it?

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Do you realize that you are, basically, using the same source for all you numbers EXCEPT the Transformers numbers?  Pirates 3 numbers are from Nielsen Videoscan.  Spidey 3 numbers are from Sony VIA Nielsen Videoscan.  Transformers numbers are from...Paramount.  I believe the article I linked to one page 160 says that the Transformers DVD and HD DVD numbers also include sales to the rental chains.  Nielsen Videoscan does NOT count sales to rental chains.

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In other words, the numbers you are using in your comparison are not from the same source.  It's turned it into a deceptive comparison, especially after it's been established that NO reliable reporting system agrees with the 190,000 copies of Transformers being sold to consumers.

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Do you realize that you are, basically, using the same source for all you numbers EXCEPT the Transformers numbers?  Pirates 3 numbers are from Nielsen Videoscan.  Spidey 3 numbers are from Sony VIA Nielsen Videoscan.  Transformers numbers are from...Paramount.  I believe the article I linked to one page 160 says that the Transformers DVD and HD DVD numbers also include sales to the rental chains.  Nielsen Videoscan does NOT count sales to rental chains.

Do you realize that we all knew this?  Please read the entire conversation before you jump in.

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In other words, the numbers you are using in your comparison are not from the same source.  It's turned it into a deceptive comparison, especially after it's been established that NO reliable reporting system agrees with the 190,000 copies of Transformers being sold to consumers.

Since you didn't read the entire discussion, I will explain it to you.  The purpose of the comparison was to show that the ratio between DVD and HD media sales was fairly close and, therefore, could be correct.  We already discussed the fact that Nielson didn't agree with Paramount's numbers but nobody has proven Paramount's numbers to be wrong.  Please try and keep up. 

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So, you are TRYING to say that twojayz's (with mismatch numbes) and your post belongs in the DVD vs. HDM thread, right?  I mean this is HD DVD and Blu-ray thread and not the HDM vs. DVD thread, right?  Thanks for the clarification! 

I am not trying to say anything.  I say exactly what I mean to say.  Please do not try and twist what I said to mean something it didn't.  If you can't keep up, just say so and I will slow it down for you. 

As for the rest, it is obvious that you didn't read any of the posts...either that or your comprehension is lacking, so I will draw a map for you...

Back on page 160, pplchamp made a post about Pirates selling 160,000 units in its first week.

twojayz responded with, "Just out of curiosity, isn't 190,000 more than 160,000?" 

This lead to a discussion about the numbers.  The final post, until you entered the fray with your uninformed post, was twojayz's post comparing the SD/HD sales percentages.  Since the percentages were close, the HD numbers, that Paramount claimed, could be true.

So, no, this has nothing to do with HDM vs DVD...but you already knew that.  If you didn't, well, I honestly don't know what to say about that.