@Stefc
What? You didn't like the first one? Amazing... I just didn't like the last. Well didn't like, thought it was the least one of the three.

@Mark
I thought that might be it. Disney does some 'strange' things from time to time, but such a big mistake...


I read something else that Microsoft is actually supporting a losing format to make sure none of the formats wins so that Microsoft will be completely ready to deliver High Def as downloads...
I think I read it on Engadget somewhere. Had something to do with Michael "Transformers" Bay...
That gave me something to think about...

Asc - I applaud your effort but my God you failed miserably to throw me under the bus. I would like to point at that the first example you used was brought to my attention and I owned up to the mistake that I made. Everything can be used in your favor if you take it out of context...

By the way, I'm not an internet "stalker", I recognized your signature and the general lack of thought in your posts. Can't help it that you are so transparent.

I love the whole I wish Transformers was on Blu-ray thing, especially when he back it up with this little gem: Transformers looks great even in DVD!!

WTF...

Quoting twojayz:

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Why would there be more money from the HD DVD side when Blu-ray outsells HD DVD 2:1 and 3:1?

Because some people don't realize that the costs aren't equal between the two formats.  I don't know what the differences are, but 2:1 sales does NOT equal 2:1 profit.

Here is another link about the whole M. Bay issue.
http://www.electronista.com/articles/07/12/04/bay.on.microsoft.hd/

My only point is if you read the different links u can see different "wordings". Regardless of the subject matter, it only futher supports the "telephone" game that I used to play when i was a kid. The orignal message is lost through many re-tellings.

Ok Asc - Here's what I have to say about all my supposed mistruths:

1) Already publicly said this a mistake on my part, no need to explain further.

2) I used M4 as an example of the efficiencies of the new technologies. I promise to include them all in future posts. By the way, do you really want to bring up Nature's Journey again as a reference point? I thought I dealt with that already. No significant performance advantages, now you can continue to misrepresent the situation but your argument has been proven wrong, give it up.

3) If one format is better at handling the information that is available then yes, there should be a difference. That goes to both the physical media and the hardware itself.

4) So you're saying that there will be no more lossless tracks on HD DVD? Ok, thanks for sharing this with the class. Your signature isn't proof that HD DVD will not have more lossless tracks in the future. Hmm, dare I say your claim of that being misleading is well, misleading...Both formats DO OFFER 1080p/24fps and the lossless soundtracks. There isn't anything misleading about that, it's a fact.

5) This is a good one, it's both wrong and misleading. Do I get a cookie now? Nothing more to say.

6) Already covered your lack of reading skills in another post...

7) The statement I made was that Blu-ray was rushed to the market. I didn't imply anything more than what I actually said. But if you want to go there, it (HD DVD) was more ready than Blu-ray.

8) It's amazing on this one because at the time you actually said it was a well thought out post. Now you're trying to discredit it. Business analysts say that Toshiba is a stronger company financially (arguably) and can sustain this war longer than Sony and the BDA.

9) Your argument here is perhaps the dumbest thing I've seen from you...Audio and visual quality were both "excellent" according to nearly ALL reviews. Don't see how that's a bad thing.

Ok, so enough with the numbers game here. HD DVD manufacturing is based on DVD manufacturing techniques. This is common knowledge. Yes, I do have a clue if this is correct or not. It is. Perhaps you should try reading up on some facts for a change.

I know you will come back and argue this whole thing all over again, you have way too much time on your hands. When do you actually find time to watch movies between traveling overseas for work (can't imagine why they send you OUT OF THE COUNTRY  ), typing on your PS3 (I think you've made yourself seem special by mentioning this a few times), and all your senseless arguing on internet forums...?

Why do people (in here) even listen to what Bay says? The guy is totally clueless - "I know what the final product should look like - Blu Ray suits my films better". Exactly the kind of intelligence I would expect from a guy with a mullet who blows things up and films the results for a living.

Quoting Calidain:

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Do you really think that Microsoft's plan to provide HD quality downloads of movies and music will be squashed by Blu-Ray or HD-DVD???

The challenges facing downloadable Hi-Def content are immense when you consider that most people are limited by bandwith on non-uniform networks throughout the country.  If by some chance Microsoft is able to solve this primary drawback, then how will either HD or Blu-Ray prevail against downloadable content.  If all things are equal, meaning availability of movies, price of movies, quality of audio and video, and studio support, than I believe downloadable content might have the edge, simply for the ease of never leaving your home to get a new movie!!!

Nice points. What about storage? If HD-DVD movies plus content are at about 30gb storage will be a huge concern. not to mention DRM and piracy issues. I know cheap SATA disks are around $300 US for 1 TB. 500gb and 750gb are a little bit cheaper at about $00.24 per GB vs $00.29 per GB on the 1 TB disks. How do you back up disks because I wouldnt want to have download all the movies again because of a failed disk.  Unless of course streaming is the answer, than space isn't as much of concern. But you can't loan your "streaming" movie to anyone because of the lack of physical media. This goes for downloaded movies as well. not very portable is the point i am trying to make.