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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tiger_lil6: Quote:
Good grief. This is getting even more ridiculous. I agree. --------------- |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Now I think we have gone through the looking glass.  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tiger_lil6: Quote:
Agreeing with one person is not an attack on someone with a different view point. It is just a different opinion. A compliment to one person is not an automatic insult or attack to another person. Even though I do 100% agree, I'm quite sure that this attitude is neither completely self-evident (that's why it had to be said), nor undisputed. There seem to be a lot of people (not limited to this forum) who still think in the good old 70's way (The friend of my foe is my foe, the foe of my foe is my friend) | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: February 23, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,580 |
| | Posted: | | | | Personally, I don't see complementing someone or giving them a greenie and saying so as opening a door towards negative remarks.
For example, someone put a lot of effort into a profile submission or answered a question I had, then I think it's OK to say I gave him or her a greenie for their efforts.
If it's something more of a personal opinion matter, I wouldn't do it since that could indeed cause a contrary reaction ... I would state I'm in agreement with that user but not overtly say I gave a greenie.
In this case however, I think it's a bit of both (the advice given is helpful in avoiding conflicts yet also reflects a personal opinion). So I can see why that could possibly bother some people.
Although, honestly, before we fall over such matters I think we've seen quite a few other kinds of posts that are much more prone to starting a fire. If the forum were to come down to being careful not to overtly state when we give a greenie to someone for their positive attitude, then I would consider it a huge success as it would mean many of the more argumentative ways of posting have become part of the past. | | | Blu-ray collection
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | I just gave out a whole slew of green arrows.  I get the argument about how they can be used to show support for someone in the midst of a battle. Thanks James for putting that in perspective. But it's like the  . The problem isn't really the weapons used to attack others. The problem is the people using the weapons. If I beat someone over the head with a water bottle, the correct response is to deal with ME, not to try to outlaw water bottles. People are clever. If you take away their weapons, they'll find new weapons or invent their own. I would never announce giving someone a red arrow (except for the time I lost my mind a while back  ). I typically don't announce giving out green arrows. But I reserve the right to do so until an official statement is made forbidding such a practice. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,650 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
I just gave out a whole slew of green arrows.
I get the argument about how they can be used to show support for someone in the midst of a battle. Thanks James for putting that in perspective. But it's like the . The problem isn't really the weapons used to attack others. The problem is the people using the weapons. If I beat someone over the head with a water bottle, the correct response is to deal with ME, not to try to outlaw water bottles. People are clever. If you take away their weapons, they'll find new weapons or invent their own.
I would never announce giving someone a red arrow (except for the time I lost my mind a while back ). I typically don't announce giving out green arrows. But I reserve the right to do so until an official statement is made forbidding such a practice. Mark: I see a lot in you post that goes right to the heart. Point 1 I never suggested that it should be forbidden, where james came up with that only he knows though i could guess. I was simply offering some friendly advice and explaining what i do and why. And yet again, I see the now famous, I don't have to because ken says i don't have to".<shakes head> So now I am not allowed to even offer up friendly advice without someone trying to misinterpret it. Wow, like I said through the looking glass. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Point 1 I never suggested that it should be forbidden, where james came up with that only he knows though i could guess. In my first post, I didn't say that you said anything. I extrapolated from what you said and the parts that I left out would be something like "If Invelos were to officially adopt the personal practice of Skip and subsequently outlaw the use of the phrase 'greenie for you'..." That seemed a bit wordy, so I just went with "if 'greenie for you' is going to become an outlawed phrase..." You may have your opinion. I just don't want Invelos to adopt it for the rest of us; hence, my post of my opinion.  In my second post, I sought to explain what I thought you were saying: Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
I think what he's saying is that saying "greenie for you" to someone is a corollary to instigating against people who disagree with the person you've given a greenie to. Better? Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
So now I am not allowed to even offer up friendly advice without someone trying to misinterpret it. Wow, like I said through the looking glass. You are certainly free to offer up friendly advice. If I misinterpret what you say, it isn't because I tried to misinterpret it. I never purposely "try" to misunderstand.  If I misinterpret it, I just misinterpreted it.  OK. Three posts by me on the topic of the phrase "greenie for you". I can't possibly think of anything else to say on this subject. | | | ...James
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
So now I am not allowed to even offer up friendly advice without someone trying to misinterpret it. Wow, like I said through the looking glass. Actually you have it exactly backwards. You offered up your opinion. I offered up mine. They happen to be somewhat opposite opinions. One of the things I think is wrong with this place is that people aren't allowed to freely express their own opinion without getting attacked. To suggest that I don't want you putting your opinion out there would be the completely hypocritical of me! I welcome differing opinions. It's the best way to learn new things. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
One of the things I think is wrong with this place is that people aren't allowed to freely express their own opinion without getting attacked. To suggest that I don't want you putting your opinion out there would be the completely hypocritical of me! I welcome differing opinions. It's the best way to learn new things. More specifically, users should learn the difference between disagreeing and attacking. Posting a differing opinion does NOT automatically make it an attack on the first user. |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | I hope this doesn't offend everyone. You guys are ALL awesome! | | | | Last edited: by Dr. Killpatient |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | James: I strongly recommend that you STOP reading things intio what i say. I do not appreciate it in the slightest. My words mean what they say, you cannot extrapolate from them, nor can derive something by parsing them. I made a friendly recommendation to another user, not even YOU, but you barged in a twisted what i said. No James, that is unacceptable. Speak only for yourself, do NOT ever pretend that you can insert meaning where I have not said that, that's offensive and now I am angry.  If your objective was not to misinterpret or try to turn something innocuous into controversy, then why did you feel a need to say anything, let alone try and put words in my mouth. Yet another instance of user barging in creating a controversy where there was none and he succeeded in starting a fire, now i have no doubt that someone will soon dump gasoline onto it.  In short, in my book you had no business creating that first post, james. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
James: I find your outrage at James amusing since I couldn't understand your point of view until he explained it here. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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