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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Gadgeteer: Quote:
I don't believe that either will ever take over from SD DVD. I know it probably doesn't look that way now because people are looking at where DVD is now and not where it was. Blu-ray has already passed where SD DVD was at this stage of the game. So, when comparing apples to apples, it's quite possible it will replace SD DVD. I believe I provided links to SD DVD's timeline somewhere in this thread. Quote:
The average punter with a 32" or smaller screen noticed the improvement that SD DVD provided over VHS but they'll see hardly any improvement between SD DVD and the HD formats. IMO, there is about the same PQ improvement from VHS to DVD as it is from DVD to HD. I still have my Magnavox VHS player and DVD player (Xbox) in my game room on a 25" CRT from Magnavox. Quote:
Both HD formats will continue alongside SD DVD as premium formats for those with much larger screens than than the average TV. Time will tell. If Blu-ray has 100% studio support, IMO, that's the HD game. Then, it will be time to focus on SD DVD by focusing on extra content quality and quantity. I'm sure others will disagree, but again time will tell. | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: April 2, 2007 | | Posts: 7 |
| | Posted: | | | | HD-DVD today got another exclusive studio in First Look Pictures. They will release "The Contract" starring John Cusack and Morgan Freeman on DVD & HD-DVD 7/24. The movie is getting alot of good buzz and should be a hit on HD-DVD. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Blu-Ray and HD DVD -- the two new high-def video formats that have been crippled into uselessness through ridiculous anti-copying measures -- are selling so poorly that a new disc can get on the weekly top ten by selling as few as 880 copies.  While we should note that the VideoScan numbers are not all-inclusive (for example, they don't include discs sold at Wal-Mart or some online merchants), the lower sales numbers at the bottom end of weekly list and on display elsewhere in the report (where some titles are listed as selling fewer than 200 units since inception) are certainly still a sobering reminder that both formats still have a long way to go in their shared quest to supplant standard-def DVD. On the other hand, Blu-Ray has 9 out of the top 10 sellers of HD discs this week. This drops to Blu-Ray having 7 of the top 10 sellers of all time. 880 discs sold! WooHoo! We're a Top-10 selling disc! Wowee! Nobody is winning this battle, because it takes nearly nothing to win. Both formats remain losers. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Of course, let's not remember that DVD had a starting point. Let's not remember that the 11 month 100,000 copies shipped record for a title was just beat by 2 months. Let's not realize that HD DVD will be 1 year old on April 18. And, let's not acknowledge that DVD's shipping record was broken by Blu-ray.
So far it seems at least one HD format is on track to take over DVD. | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 811 |
| | Posted: | | | | Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ................ |
| | Registered: March 16, 2007 | | Posts: 405 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote:
Of course, let's not remember that DVD had a starting point. Let's not remember that the 11 month 100,000 copies shipped record for a title was just beat by 2 months. Let's not realize that HD DVD will be 1 year old on April 18. And, let's not acknowledge that DVD's shipping record was broken by Blu-ray.
So far it seems at least one HD format is on track to take over DVD. 100,000 shipped just means that Retailers pruchased 100,000 copies of that movie. When or perhaps if, Casino Royale actually sells 100,000 copies, only then will I really be impressed, and at this rate, that may take 11 months. Again, I say it boldly, these so-called DVD replacement(s) are stagnated by this format war, the smart consumer will wait for a multi-format player or until a DEFINITE WINNER (ie. one of the 2 formats discontinues any new production of old or new release movies) is announced!!! | | | | My Collection!!! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Battling Butler: Quote:
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ................ Hey! That's my line!  Blah, blah, blah, blah... | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 93 |
| | Posted: | | | | So, what about the regional coding again??? A friend of mine is currently in Japan and I'd like him to bring me back a couple of Blu-Rays, US and Japan have Region A, right? So there shouldnt be a problem playing those? Or am I wrong?  | | | | - Life is just a form of animated death. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting katharsis: Quote:
So, what about the regional coding again???
A friend of mine is currently in Japan and I'd like him to bring me back a couple of Blu-Rays, US and Japan have Region A, right? So there shouldnt be a problem playing those? Or am I wrong? No problem at all. You are correct. If you want to import titles to or from Europe, check out this link. | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 460 |
| | Posted: | | | | I read on DVDTown.com that you should not get Blu-ray. Quote:
Toshiba has been good in issuing firmware updates for their players to make sure they are compatible with future HD-DVD releases. You might believe this is the case with Blu-ray as well, but no. Recent comments from the Blu-ray camp indicate that they have yet to complete final specifications for the interactive component called Blu-ray Disc JAVA (BD JAVA). What this means is that when the specifications are finally decided upon in late October, 2007, one's Blu-ray player bought before that date may not play parts of future Blu-ray releases. Imagine the confusion in a store trying to figure out if one's machine will play a specific extra. | | | | Jean-Paul |
|   | Erik | | It's a strange world. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 422 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VibroCount: Quote:
Nobody is winning this battle, because it takes nearly nothing to win. Both formats remain losers. Blah blah blah aside, I'd really hate to see these become "LaserDisc" formats. I love DVD, but when you have to chop titles like The Green Mile in half (spread it over two discs) to get decent PQ, it's a fairly obvious sign... Plus, 1080p is very purty  | | | Erik
"Has it ever occurred to you, man, that given the nature of all this new stuff, that, uh, instead of running around blaming me, that this whole thing might just be, not, you know, not just such a simple, but uh - you know?" -- The Dude, The Big Lebowski
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting JP_S: Quote:
I read on DVDTown.com that you should not get Blu-ray.
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Toshiba has been good in issuing firmware updates for their players to make sure they are compatible with future HD-DVD releases. You might believe this is the case with Blu-ray as well, but no. Recent comments from the Blu-ray camp indicate that they have yet to complete final specifications for the interactive component called Blu-ray Disc JAVA (BD JAVA). What this means is that when the specifications are finally decided upon in late October, 2007, one's Blu-ray player bought before that date may not play parts of future Blu-ray releases. Imagine the confusion in a store trying to figure out if one's machine will play a specific extra. Funny. If that's the case, you definitely shouldn't get a HD DVD player. There is really only one feature Blu-ray players are not compatible with at this moment. That feature is PiP. That's it until BD-Live is released for online forums and so forth. Toshiba is having issues with their 2.1 firmware revision on some of their players (this is even posted in this section of the forum). The funny part is Toshiba is the ONLY producer of HD DVD players besides the add-ons and they STILL can't get it right! Then, there are issues with Children of Men playback...one of Universal's biggest titles this year. I wasn't even going to mention those things here. Next time make sure you don't open a can a of worms, ok? | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Erik: Quote:
Quoting VibroCount:
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Nobody is winning this battle, because it takes nearly nothing to win. Both formats remain losers.
Blah blah blah aside, I'd really hate to see these become "LaserDisc" formats. I love DVD, but when you have to chop titles like The Green Mile in half (spread it over two discs) to get decent PQ, it's a fairly obvious sign... Plus, 1080p is very purty Exactly! So, if you want a great 1080p PQ and lossless audio on titles like Lord of the Rings: Return of the King Extended Edition (and any other LoTR EE titles in the trilogy) without spliting the titles into two parts, Blu-ray is your only choice. The math proves that. | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | In light of what I just posted, who wants the Toshiba HD-A20! They are now shipping for $500! More info available here. Step right up and get 5 free movies per purchase! Or you could probably wait 'til they start giving them away with 7 to 10 free movies around Christmas. Oh wait, wait...in other words...blah, blah, blah.  | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 16, 2007 | | Posts: 405 |
| | Posted: | | | | I believe the issue with the Toshiba 2.1 update has been linked to HDMI to DVI conversion. I am sure Toshiba will fix this issue in the very near future.
What all this says to me is exactly what I have been saying for a while, use caution before buying into either format because both formats are still ironing out hardware issues. It also appears that buying early might leave you in the cold when it comes to future upgrades to the software itself.
I always believe in waiting before buying into the newest and latest new technology to hit the retail shelves. I learned this long ago when the 1st Playstation I purchased right after release had serious overheating issues. In a year or so, when prices drop and the things settle down I will buy Microsoft Vista, the PS3, the new XBOX 360, and one of the new multi-format HD media players!!! | | | | My Collection!!! | | | | Last edited: by Calidain |
| | Erik | | It's a strange world. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 422 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote:
So, if you want a great 1080p PQ and lossless audio on titles like Lord of the Rings: Return of the King Extended Edition (and any other LoTR EE titles in the trilogy) without spliting the titles into two parts, Blu-ray is your only choice. This post sponsored by SONY | | | Erik
"Has it ever occurred to you, man, that given the nature of all this new stuff, that, uh, instead of running around blaming me, that this whole thing might just be, not, you know, not just such a simple, but uh - you know?" -- The Dude, The Big Lebowski
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