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What if nobody wins the high-definition DVD format wars?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantthobbs13
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Click here: In the DVD War Over High Definition, Most Buyers Are Sitting It Out - New York Times
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Sorry

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/31/business/31dvd.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&ref=technology
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I don't think there's ever going to be a clear winner. Both HD format will either be rendered obsolete by the arrival of a legal download service, or by a flood of dual format reader/burner.
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A download service is far from reality in my opinion.  Assuming that a HD movie is 25 GB, that'll take quite some time to download.  I have a fiber optic connection that that would take me hours to download.  Streaming is currently not feasable except on the most fastest connections.
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I don't see a problem with there not being a winner.  I'm certainly enjoying HD at home just fine.  At this time it's with an HD DVD player, but at some point this year I expect to pick up a Blu-ray player and start enjoying those titles as well.  It would be nice if there was just one format, but it's not necessary.
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Well, I am proud to say that I am one of those sitting it out...

Last time this happened, I dropped almost $1,000 on a betamax machine.  Within a few weeks of my purchasing it, I realized that I had made a mistake when the rental stores (they were all mom & pop type shops around me back then) stopped carrying new betamax movies.

It really does not matter who has the better product or more movies available, etc., it is all marketing and the way you bundle it.  Right now with the price of HD-DVD players being around $200 and up, they should be killing Blu-Ray (players are at least $100 more-and don't include the Samsung garbage player), but HD-DVD does not seem to be spending the money on advertising and people only see the biggest movies going either Blu-Ray or both. 

This time, I will just sit back and wait for someone else to decide who wins the wars.    C' y'all when the war is over or the dual player prices come down.
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Sorry

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/31/business/31dvd.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&ref=technology


here you go..      for that link..

and I agree with the article in general.. I have absolutley no deisre to start replacing my regular DVD's with a Hi Def version..  Not when when a player can upconvert the quallity to 1080i..
I Notice the improved image hands down and I didn't have to spend any more money or carry two titles of the same Movie.
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From my experience, a HD title is still far superiour than an upscaled DVD.  Even my son who is a staunt "DVD is good enough!" user realized that when watching the opening Disney logo on a recent HD title compared to the DVD version, he could see a lot more stars/dust during the logo on the HD version.

Upscaling is still stretching.  Stretches it better than a standard DVD player but still stretching.
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and I agree with the article in general.. I have absolutley no deisre to start replacing my regular DVD's with a Hi Def version..  Not when when a player can upconvert the quality to 1080i..
I Notice the improved image hands down and I didn't have to spend any more money or carry two titles of the same Movie.


I agree, also.
I have the new Oppo that converts to 1080p on my new TV and an older Oppo that converts to 1080i on an older TV. Since I'll provably never have need for a screen size larger than 46 in., I'm happy as things are.

plus...
TV station are broadcasting only in 720p or 1080i.
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Well, you can upscale the resolution but you can't upscale the quality. Upscaled DVD might look better than standard def but it still looks like shiitake mushroome compared to real high definition.
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Well, you can upscale the resolution but you can't upscale the quality. Upscaled DVD might look better than standard def but it still looks like shiitake mushroome compared to real high definition.


You also have to take into account the audio, which to me can make a good movie great. Even a standard 5.1 track on either Blu or HD sounds much better than it's DVD counterpart. I am impressed at almost every movie I watch. My guess is they are less compressed or something. Whatever the reason there is a noticeable difference. 

I can't wait till I get a new receiver and can take advantage of the HD sound formats.  I'm sure it will be incredible.
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I have both HD-DVD and Blu-ray so if one wins or both stick around I am set.  Though my capabilities are via gaming systems. 

Once I got HD cable, I really wanted HD movies next.  Then I got HD-DVD with my XBox I couldn't go back to regular DVD and soon got a PS3 for Blu-ray just so I had everything covered. 

And even at 1080i, I think some movies look even better than they did in the theaters.
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The 400 movies available in each format are a fraction of the 90,000 movies and TV programs that the video rental company Netflix offers.

That's the main reason I won't switch to either HD or BR. Availability of product. The 400 available titles in the US (and probably 200 or so in the Netherlands/Europe) are basically your standard blockbuster. I'm not in the least bit interested to buy Pirates of the Caribbean 1,2 or 3 or other Hollywood piffle on dvd, never mind highdef.
Then there's the ridiculous outdated region coding for bluray, which means that I still have to keep my standard dvd-player. If I can't play half my collection on either a European or US blurayplayer, then it's not even an issue whether I should upgrade or not.
Yes, HD-DVD is region free, but again the severe lack of catalogue that I would be interested in buying makes me stay happy with my dvds.

A lot of people have 3 players now, just to be able to play every format they want. I just want 1 player. And if that means that I don't get to "experience" highdef, so be it.
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I've been most impressed with the catalog titles released so far, even more so than the new releases. 2001 and Blade Runner in HD just blows me away!
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I am honestly surprised Sony hasn't gone and done something like release their movie titles at DVD prices.  They have the format.  They make players.  they release movies.  You release your movies at the same price in blu-ray as it is in DVD it would tilt the scales in your favor a little.
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Looks like Sony may win this format war..
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